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Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

From the Intergalactic Sports Network and Ember Media we bring you a new look at wrestling history!Join us for deep dives into the subjects, humans, and matches that have built pro wrestling beyond what we see every week

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  • 1. The First National Promotion Part One: This is College Basketball's Fault

    20:02||Season 1, Ep. 1
    In the open of our first full season, we look at the thesis statement for our project and the man responsible for our subject matter, Eddie Einhorn.References!EINHORN LINKShttps://seamheads.com/2014/03/01/an-interview-with-white-sox-owner-eddie-einhorn/http://www.wrestlingepicenter.com/RIP/Einhorn.html chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1tsr3U9VUXRacn4VXHP5Qe9hMFrqkHxMo&authuser=0&acrobatPromotionSource=GoogleDriveNativeViewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcN2kI7zvfc&t=10shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oayh-uBvAcQRINGLEYhttp://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=1;t=124546GEORGE SCOTThttps://www.midatlanticwrestling.net/resourcecenter/interviews/rip_hawk/rip_hawk_05.htmhttps://www.midatlanticwrestling.net/resourcecenter/interviews/superstar/superstar01.htmhttps://www.midatlanticgateway.com/2019/06/best-of-tv-nc-1975.htmlhttp://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=136889https://www.midatlanticwrestling.net/almanac/history/1975_03.htmhttps://www.midatlanticgateway.com/2016/08/murdock-remembers-george-scott.htmlhttps://www.starnewsonline.com/picture-gallery/entertainment/2023/02/25/ric-flair-and-wilmington-nc-plane-crash-photos/11302564002/ https://midatlanticwrestling.net/resourcecenter/interviews/thatcher/george_scott.htmhttps://www.midatlanticwrestling.net/resourcecenter/interviews/superstar/superstar02.htmhttp://www.wrestlingclassics.com/wawli/New191-200.htmhttp://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=043125

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  • 2. Plane Crashes, The Mafia, and Madison Square Garden

    23:50||Season 1, Ep. 2
    In the second edition of our season, George Scott gives Eddie Einhorn his answer, we meet the man who would partner with Einhorn, learn how a Genovese boss fought a referee, and more!Resourceshttps://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2010/02/24/announcer-martinez-was-instrumental-in-iwa-video-world/https://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/ohio/cleveland/cleveland-history.htmlhttps://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts12.htmhttps://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=739https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/PedroMartinez.htmlhttps://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=270234https://www.nyprowrestling.com/results/1950s/https://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/7208150938/in/album-72157629752038594/https://www.whenitwascool.com/history-of-wrestling-1952https://forgottenrollerrinksofthepast.com/parkcircle.htmlhttps://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/supercards/usa/misc/newyork.htmlhttps://www.legacyofwrestling.com/NewYorkTerritory.htmlhttps://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=2113&page=4&s=200https://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=2113&page=4&search=madison+square+garden
  • 2.5. Toots Mondt Meets a Fist At Madison Square Garden

    18:59||Season 1, Ep. 2.5
    We continue our look at Pedro Martinez and his road to the International Wrestling Alliance and the role he played in New York Wrestling in and out of the city, a look at NWA's power structure, a mini-wrestling war, and we finally talk about Toots Mondt getting punched out at MSG.Subscribe to learn more the secret history about pro wrestling and how we went from the carnivals to AEW and WWE on Netflix and Max!ResourcesTim Hornbaker: National Wrestling AllianceKeith Elliot Greenberg: Too SweetJim Wilson: Choke Holdhttps://web.archive.org/web/20220218164234/https://buffalonews.com/news/pedro-martinez-famed-buffalo-wrestling-promoter-dies/article_b6f6b5d6-6b7a-5463-bc42-fa599e7dee37.htmlhttps://www.legacyofwrestling.com/PedroMartinez.htmlhttps://www.legacyofwrestling.com/NYBookingOffice.htmlhttps://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=278011https://www.nyprowrestling.com/articles/results/19540215msg.html
  • 3. How the Federal Government, Lack of Vision, and TV Time Created The WWE

    19:45||Season 1, Ep. 3
    Our look at the first national wrestling promotion brings us to when the NWA was at the peak of its powers but would see Toots Mondt's lack of success at the track and at the gate, kneecapping of nationally televised cards, and the Federal Government create major cracks that would not only lead to the IWA in 1975 but to the creation of World Wrestling Entertainment.Resourceshttps://www.legacyofwrestling.com/NevadaTerritory.htmlhttps://www.legacyofwrestling.com/Doyle.htmlhttps://www.legacyofwrestling.com/BarnettDoyle2.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NWA_%22Beat_the_Champ%22_Television_Championshiphttp://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=005650https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/Doyle.htmlhttp://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=005650http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=150402https://radiodiscussions.com/threads/memories-of-studio-wrestling.518890/http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=047958http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=9;t=034940https://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/profile/jim-barnett/https://mikemooneyham.com/2004/09/26/barnett-an-unforgettable-figure/https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/RoyShire.htmlhttps://houseofdeception.com/Roy_Shire.htmlhttp://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000353https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/sanfrancisco/sanfrancisco6-2.htm
  • 4. Alternate Universe WWE Rises In Midwest As NWA Retightens Grip

    27:34||Season 1, Ep. 4
    We return to the Johnny Doyle saga as he's now partnered with Jim Barnett to slowly take over the United States with their revolutionary brand of pro wrestling in the wake of the NWA's Consent Decree and an investigation by the Department of Justice.Despite Barnett and Doyle's former partnerships with Fred Kohler, Vince McMahon, and Toots Mondt, don't expect those partnerships to be sustained as Barnett and Doyle would see unlikely allies amidst their renegade siege across the United States.https://x.com/GreatBrianLast/status/1088227713129857024https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/Doyle.htmlhttps://www.legacyofwrestling.com/BarnettDoyle2.htmlhttp://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=005650http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=150402https://radiodiscussions.com/threads/memories-of-studio-wrestling.518890/http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=047958http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=9;t=034940https://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/profile/jim-barnett/https://mikemooneyham.com/2004/09/26/barnett-an-unforgettable-figure/https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/RoyShire.htmlhttps://houseofdeception.com/Roy_Shire.htmlhttps://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/sanfrancisco/sanfrancisco6-2.htmhttps://www.geocities.ws/percivalafriend/friend060407.htmhttps://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=384427737661137&set=pcb.384427794327798https://prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/big-time-wrestling-san-francisco/https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/wwa-ind/wwaind2.htm
  • 5. Football, The FBI, and the True Story of the WWE Title

    34:29||Season 1, Ep. 5
    This week, we look at how the National Football League, their rivals, the American Football League, and the Department of Justice set the stage for not only Johnny Doyle and Jim Barnett's last act as a tandem in the United States but for Vince McMahon and Toots Mondt to keep Buddy Rogers as their World Heavyweight Champion without the NWA and the Federal Government looking breathing down their necks.Resourceshttps://www.realtime1960s.com/post/dick-the-bruiser-in-scuffle-with-alex-karrashttps://www.realtime1960s.com/post/blood-smeared-dick-the-bruiser-pins-alex-karras-in-grudge-matchhttp://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=070505https://www.newspapers.com/article/detroit-free-press-bruiser-aftermath-art/6565553/https://www.newspapers.com/article/detroit-free-press-bruiser-karras-fight/6565432/https://www.instagram.com/realtime1960s/p/CrjxWflvku6/http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=041492https://www.indystar.com/story/news/history/retroindy/2015/11/19/dick-bruiser-worlds-most-dangerous-wrestler/75993686/https://www.desmoinesregister.com/picture-gallery/sports/history/2014/05/19/23-photos-former-hawkeye-alex-karras/9304487/https://www.aseaofblue.com/2013/8/14/4570622/kentucky-football-tales-from-the-dark-side-charlie-bradshaw-part-threehttp://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=1;t=134997https://muchnick.net/nwa-doj.pdf
  • 6. Nothing Works In Cleveland, Buddy Rogers Heart Gives Out, Bruno Sammartino Rises, and Meet Johnny Powers

    26:20||Season 1, Ep. 6
    Fun times in Cleveland seems like a misnomer, but this week we head to The Land and get a look at some of the secret wrestling history that played into Bruno Sammartino becoming WWWF Champion!This plus Bruno's path to the title, Buddy Rogers final act in Capitol Wrestling, Johnny Powers and how he connects to not only these two, but our story, the comparisons between this situation and the Montreal Screwjob, Bruno and Buddy being the proto-CM Punk and Cody Rhodes, along with Powers being an early model of who Cody Rhodes would become. https://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/ohio/cleveland/cleveland-history.htmlhttps://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts12.htmhttp://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=027360http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=010574https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&sort=ort&land=3&stadt=18&region=4&arena=80&jahr=0&showart=0&ansicht=0&seite=11https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Wrestling_Federationhttps://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts6-2.htmhttps://www.cleveland.com/pdextra/2010/07/l-l-l-l-lets_get_ready_to_reme.htmlhttps://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=381https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts15.htmhttps://www.f4wonline.com/news/other-wrestling/former-nwf-promoter-johnny-powers-passes-away-at-79-years-old/https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2023/01/07/johnny-powers-dead-at-79/http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=024833https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts11.htm