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Crying Makes Space for Joy. Lessons Learned Battling and Beating Cancer with Ashlee and Michael Cramer

Ep. 218

What if this tragedy that just hit your family came to transform your life for the better? 


In this episode, I'm joined by Ashlee and Michael Cramer, shining examples of "how to do things right" when facing crises and emerging stronger and better on the other side. Only four years after Patrice, Ashlee's husband and Michael's father, passed after battling lymphoma, Michael was diagnosed with an aggressive and rare form of blood cancer. Far from questioning their fate or spending time and energy asking God why, they started a mental, spiritual, and physical taxing battle against the disease, emerging victorious, stronger than ever, and united by an unbreakable bond they (luckily for us) decided to share with the world. 


They host the "Michael and Mom Talk Cancer" podcast and lead cancer support groups in the Cancer Buddy app and the app Circles, Michael the "Cancer Survivor Support Group" on Fridays at 5 pm, and Ashlee the "Coping as Cancer Caregivers" on Saturdays at 10 pm.


Throughout this episode full of invaluable life lessons, Ashlee and Michael share details of their journey battling cancer and the lessons that battle taught them about healing, compassion, and unconditional love. Ashlee also talks about her husband's death and her decision to take him home and be with him in his transition.


Additionally, they share their thoughts on using joy to cope with grief and pain, the healing power of kindness and connection, and more.


Tune in and listen to episode 218 of and let Ashlee and Michael teach you how to transform grief and pain and turn them into fuel for growth and healing.


In This Episode, You Will Learn:

A bit about Ashlee and Michael (1:30)

How Michael's battle against cancer started (5:50)

Ashlee talks about how being a Happy for No Reason trainer helped her (14:20)

About Patrice's transition surrounded by love (22:40)

It doesn't matter what you say; sometimes being around is enough (28:00)

You can't heal until you accept (34:10)

Cry makes space for joy (41:20)


Resources:

Cancer Buddy App

Circles App


Connect with Ashlee and Michael:

Website

YouTube

Michael and Mom Talk Cancer podcast

Instagram

TikTok

Get Michael's book, Beyond the Blood: A Story of Love

Ashlee's Instagram

Ashlee's Email: ashleeproutycramer@gmail.com

Michael's Email: michaelreidcramer@gmail.com

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