How Long Gone

Yotam Ottolenghi is one of today's most prolific chefs, restaurateurs, and cookbook writers. His newest book, Simple Too, is out now. We chat with him from his home in London about the New York Marathon, the approaching Christmas season, a pancake disappointment, his children failing to adopt his taste for unique flavors, Yotam trying to convince Chris to take a second look at cottage cheese, what to do with old croissants, resisting the urge to put sumac in Yorkshire pudding, finally getting his side of the pomegranate seed story, British vs. American food safety regulations, how he eats on "show day," cooking as a de-stressor, his ice cream flavors, modern diet paralysis, which foods deliver well and are even better the next day, how you can't copyright a recipe, and we close on Jason's current popcorn seasoning.instagram.com/ottolenghitwitter.com/donetodeathtwitter.com/themjeanshowlonggone.com

One-on-one pod today: Chris and Jason are both in L.A. and chat about passing out Chomps for Halloween and the resurgence of trick-or-treaters, Chris eating an omelette for both lunch and dinner yesterday, Chris seeing Phoebe Bridgers at the Intuit Dome, both of us liking Law Roach now, Chris enjoying his meal at Echo Park's Henrietta, Jason predicting the rise of ciabatta in 2027, Jason visiting the Cheese Store of Beverly Hills, Indy Nivarrette hosting SNL, the word "skank," Martha Stewart's offensive Halloween costume, standing up while watching TV and eating, Dan Frommer's GLP-1 data report, Planters Cheez Balls, and How Long Gone is throwing a party at the PUBLIC Hotel on Thursday, November 5, in Los Angeles.twitter.com/donetodeathtwitter.com/themjeanshowlonggone.com

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in L.A. at the new Public Hotel, and Jason is home in Glendale. We chat about celebrity Halloween photo shoots and Chris' idea for our costume, we find out how old Chris was the last time he dressed up for Halloween, whether IShowSpeed is turning into Tom Cruise, Chris and other creators attending the new Apple MacBook event, what Bill Gates' Amish or A.I. might actually look like in the not-too-distant future, the mysterious inaugural Airbnb.org gala, the guy with the Bode jacket emailed Chris, Jason witnessing an airplane interaction with a male actor, and coming across the first sponcon apology post.twitter.com/donetodeathtwitter.com/themjeanshowlonggone.com

Chris Wallace is an avid traveler, writer, photographer, and old friend of CB's, and has a new quarterly out now. We chat with him on his way to Mexico about reflexively pinching and zooming a physical photograph, attending the W Youth Magazine dinner at Thai Diner, CB's report from sitting courtside at the Knicks game, Chris’ late father “coming out” and developing a relationship with him afterward, the two Chrises comparing how many days a year they’re away and what such travel junkies are “running away” from, not having an address or health care and what city he plans to partially call home next year, working at Les Deux Café in the mid-to-late ’90s, how to find validation for the things one does, celebrity media training and the future of managing your own platform, ego psychosis, and the SEO difficulty of his name.instagram.com/chriswallace4twitter.com/donetodeathtwitter.com/themjeanshowlonggone.com

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is in Austin, TX. We chat about the discovery of undershirts, Sacha Baron Cohen's unwanted extreme press push, Jason sitting next to Joe Rogan at the Texas-Ole Miss game, Cybertaxis taking over Austin, drinking all your favorite alcohols in one night, Jason possibly having grown an inch, the benefits of Styrofoam, JAY-Z ticket sales, and Chris preparing to see a Dashboard Confessional matinee followed by courtside seats at the Knicks game.twitter.com/donetodeathtwitter.com/themjeanshowlonggone.com

Kings of Leon are a band from Tennessee. Their new album, O My Beloved, is out soon. We chat with Jared from his home about canned pumpkin, Jason seeking advice on how to approach the college football game he's attending in Texas this weekend, Chris going to buzzy new restaurant Straker's, how to emotionally hedge one's bets with sports, light beer, his unique sleeping situation on hotel floors as a child, having to cancel a show because of bird poop, how opening for U2 taught them to make more anthemic tunes, his mom tailoring his skinny jeans, his job in the band besides playing in it, Kacey Musgraves' disco ball testicles, what "chocolate gravy" is, and the Southern tradition of canning vegetables.instagram.com/kingsofleontwitter.com/donetodeathtwitter.com/themjeanshowlonggone.com

Twisted Teens are a band from New Orleans. Their new record, The Holy Cross Tigers, is out soon on Sub Pop. We chat with Caspian from his home about the Victoria’s Secret show, bringing a Bible to court, living off-grid in a yurt, Home Depot scams, riding freight trains and trimming flower, his extensive knowledge of California native plants, why everyone he knew left for New Orleans or Minnesota, who should play the Unabomber in the inevitable biopic, how he started writing pop songs once he realized how hard it was, the Tao of Rick Rubin, how he got institutionalized, and how kratom and beer hops ruin your libido.instagram.com/twistedteensneworleanstwitter.com/donetodeathtwitter.com/themjeanshowlonggone.com

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Atlanta, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Chris attending his twin nieces’ fútbol match, Baby Gronk, Bella Hadid working out in the Alo sauna, Jake Shane being ready to learn about Madonna, how to sneak into the W Youth Magazine party at the Saddle Ranch in Hollywood, power-washing videos between sets at the gym, the Elizabeth Holmes doc You Can See Everything opening to much fanfare, HBO’s Girls returning for a limited series, Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley linking up, Chris possibly having the best lemon tart of his life, and Jason heading to the Charli show tonight.twitter.com/donetodeathtwitter.com/themjeanshowlonggone.com

Sam Hine, formerly at GQ and now the senior men’s style editor at New York Magazine, returns to chat with us from his office about heather gray sweatpants, a pill popper on Jason's flight home from Mexico, the power of Jeremy Allen White's new haircut, a recent meal at New York restaurant Ha's Đặc Biệt, his recent cover story featuring a bathhouse full of it-men, photographer Ryan McGinley's sleep schedule, sharing a suitcase with your spouse, the Timeshifter app for our world travelers, his upcoming wedding plans, AI vows, the F&B program at his new offices, a bean sandwich, and Matthew Schneier giving Borgo the top spot on his list of New York's best restaurants.instagram.com/samuelhinetwitter.com/donetodeathtwitter.com/themjeanshowlonggone.com