Episode 209: Chronic Illness and Self-Care with Meghan O'Rourke

Kate discovers she loves muesli and Doree recommends a caftan she can’t get enough of. Then, author Meghan O’Rourke joins them to discuss her daily forest bathing routine, her new book The Invisible Kingdom: Reimagining Chronic Illness, and what advice she wishes she had when she was in her 20s.

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