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BAM, Next Wave, NYC, ep. 3

Ep. 30
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FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In this episode: assimmilation - infantilisation - helping a younger brother - the future of feminism - to express myself.

Recorded on the 21st of November 2025, at BAM Brooklyn, Next Wave Festival, New York City.


(01:25) Dorotea [°1970 - Ocean of Lingayen, Philippines]: “The teacher accused me of not doing my homework myself. How can an immigrant girl know how to type? I quit highschool. I assimmilated to the story he had of me."

(07:10) Clara [°1994 - Stanford, Connecticut, USA]: “I am infantilized often. It kind of made me bitter over time. But there is a Haitian proverb: 'you will meet the man, or you'll meet your maker.'"

(11:53) Danre Adekunle [°Ibadan, Nigeria]: “I am an eldest immigrant daughter, my parents defer decision making to me. My brother is soaring right now. I flew down to Atlanta each month to make sure he is in a good place, 24 flights in 12 months."

(15:32) Anne [°1989 - Brazil]: "My mother didn't get to have a career. But she has one now, in art. Her medium is what comes from domestic work, which she was made to do when she was young. I also took her for granted as a servant. She had so much more to say, that I was missing. It didn't end there."

(20:10) Greta [°2009 - New York City]: "I am in a feminism club at my school. I have been trying to ignore a lot of stuff, push it away. Being a young woman, feeling I have the future of feminism on my back... people don't realise how hard it is. What am I going to do with my future? How am I going to make this right?"

(27:00) What do you deserve? A chain of 10 answers, with a gender shift in the middle after "for one single man to come up here and tell us what they deserve." Ending with: 'I deserve to express myself.'"


For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).


Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu

Sound engineer: Hayden Hook

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte


This episode was co-produced by Qubit Music and supported by the Dutch Embassy in New York

Leadership support for theater at BAM provided by The Shubert Foundation, Inc. and The SHS Foundation

Leadership support for Next Wave 2025 provided by National Endowment for the Arts

Support for theater at BAM provided by The Gladys Krieble Delmas Foundation and Laura Pels International Foundation for Theater

Additional support for theater at BAM provided by The Francena T. Harrison Foundation Trust and David L. Klein, Jr. Foundation


Instagram: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

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