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Episode 435: Chaos, Loyalty, and the NSC Shake Up
Today, Morgan, Les, Amy, and Jess unpack the dramatic firings at the National Security Council, following far-right influencer Laura Loomer’s unexpected meeting with President Trump. In just 24 hours, two rounds of senior NSC officials—including the Commander and Deputy of U.S. Cyber Command—were dismissed, with a third round reportedly imminent. What triggered the purge? A mix of internal power struggles, loyalty tests, and fallout from last week’s Signal Gate scandal.
Is the Trump administration sidelining expertise in favor of ideological alignment? With trust in National Security Advisor Mike Waltz shaken and figures like Pete Hegseth gaining influence, is a broader battle underway between traditional GOP Reaganites and those who are more skeptical of U.S. alliances. And who stands to benefit from this internal unraveling at the heart of U.S. foreign policy?
Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.
Check out the sources that helped shape our Fellows’ discussion:
https://jinsa.org/jinsa_report/path-to-snapback-april-2025/
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/02/trump-iran-talks-bomb-threats
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467. Episode 467: No Predictions, Just Pressure: U.S., Israel, and Iran
12:01||Ep. 467Today, Les, Martha, and Jeffery discuss the latest twist in the escalating standoff between the U.S., Israel, and Iran. As speculation swirls over whether the U.S. will join Israeli strikes on Iran’s underground nuclear facility at Fordow, the White House has announced President Trump will decide within two weeks whether to intervene. That decision could involve the use of powerful U.S. bunker-busting munitions—potentially the 30,000-pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator—against a fortified target only the U.S. is capable of hitting. While others jump to forecast outcomes, the Fault Lines crew focuses instead on what this moment actually means.What does the administration’s messaging signal about its strategic calculus—and red lines? How much pressure is being applied through public signaling, and how much of it is aimed at Tehran, Tel Aviv, or the American public? And with escalation already underway, how can we look to conflicts of the past to inform how we move forward? Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Follow our experts on Twitter: @lestermunson @marthamillerdcLike what we're doing here? Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe. And don't forget to follow @faultlines_pod and @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here (and have a chance to see Bean the dog!): https://youtu.be/E4KyNG8l-cg466. Episode 466: Escalation in the Gulf: Iran, Israel, and the U.S.
14:53||Ep. 466Today, Martha, Les, and Morgan discuss the rapidly escalating conflict between Israel and Iran, now entering its sixth day with historic implications. The immediate trigger was a rare IAEA censure of Iran for non-compliance with nuclear safeguards—the first since 2005—but Iran and its proxy groups like Hezbollah, Iraqi militias, and the Houthis have been attacking Israel for years leading up to this point. President Trump has ordered a large-scale U.S. military buildup in the region and demanded Iran’s unconditional surrender, even as Tehran warns of severe retaliation.Is this the beginning of a full-scale regional war—and will U.S. forces inevitably be drawn in? How will Tehran respond to the unprecedented damage to its nuclear program and military infrastructure? Will this mark a turning point in re-establishing American deterrence?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Follow our experts on Twitter: @marthamillerdc@lestermunson @morganlroachLike what we're doing here? Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe. And don't forget to follow @faultlines_pod and @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/2k7BlOYABh4465. Episode 465: The ODNI Under Review
10:50||Ep. 465Today, Jess, Martha, Les and Jeffrey unpack comments and messaging shared by Tulsi Gabard, Director of National Intelligence. In a recent video, Gabbard warned that “warmongers and political elites” are pushing the U.S. toward nuclear war, while her congressional testimony downplayed Iran’s nuclear threat. At the same time, Gabbard has introduced a more centralized review process for intelligence reports, drawing some concern within the intelligence community.Does Gabbard’s nuclear rhetoric echo broader narratives—like Russian disinformation—designed to stoke fear of nuclear war? Is Gabbard’s direct message to the public common for the ODNI? How might the new intelligence reporting oversight affect the objectivity and credibility of the assessments?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out the sources that helped shape our Fellows’ discussion: https://www.axios.com/2025/06/11/tulsi-gabbard-intelligence-leaks-deep-statehttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/gabbard-considering-ways-revamp-trumps-intelligence-briefing-rcna209805https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/5215194-iran-nuclear-weapons/ https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/tulsi-gabbard-video-nuclear-war-bomb-shelters-rcna212317 Follow our experts on Twitter: @NotTVJessJones@marthamillerdc@lestermunson Like what we're doing here? Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe. And don't forget to follow @faultlines_pod and @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/0MHSi_A5J-s464. Episode 464: Red Lines Crossed: Israel’s Strike, U.S. Response, and Regional Risks
10:25||Ep. 464Today, Morgan, Martha, Les, and Jess discuss Israel’s launch of Operation Rising Lion—a sweeping strike against Iran’s nuclear infrastructure, long-range missile sites, air defenses, and senior IRGC leadership. As the U.S. pulled personnel from the region, raising questions about prior coordination, President Trump claimed he had warned Iran of the consequences of refusing a deal. Meanwhile, Secretary of State Marco Rubio emphasized the U.S. was not involved, calling the Israeli strikes a unilateral action.With the situation still unfolding, is the region now on the brink of a broader war? What does this strike mean for U.S. influence in the Middle East—and for the safety of American personnel on the ground? And has diplomacy with Iran reached a final breaking point, or is there still time to pull back from escalation?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out the sources that helped shape our Fellows’ discussion: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-embassy-iraq-preparing-ordered-evacuation-due-heightened-security-risks-2025-06-11/ https://time.com/7293392/us-embassy-iraq-iran/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/06/11/us-israel-iran-attack-fears/ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c629yk5z07vo Follow our experts on Twitter: @morganlroach @marthamillerdc@lestermunson @NotTVJessJonesLike what we're doing here? Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe. And don't forget to follow @faultlines_pod and @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/ablr_IEmgz8463. Episode 463: Gas, Gold, and Guns: Terrorism in West Africa
11:38||Ep. 463Today, Les, Matt, Jeffrey, and Joshua examine the growing instability in West Africa as jihadist group Jama’at Nusrat al-Islam wal-Muslimin (JNIM) expands its control across Burkina Faso and the Sahel. With the U.S. and France reducing their regional footprint, local governments are struggling to respond to the spread of terrorism, and Russia—through the Africa Corps—has stepped into the vacuum left behind.How are terrorist groups like JNIM funding their operations, and what role does illicit finance play in undermining global sanctions? Can the U.S. afford to keep pulling back, especially with key diplomatic and aid positions still unfilled? And with natural resources fueling violence and extremism, are we ignoring an urgent front in global security that could soon come knocking on our own door?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out the sources that helped shape our Fellows’ discussion: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/06/08/jnim-militants-west-africa-sahel-terrorism/ https://apnews.com/article/russia-africa-weaponry-ships-mali-ukraine-f3383b5bbc8120b445d3df9062bf7f14 Follow our experts on Twitter: @lestermunson @WMattHayden@joshuachuminskiLike what we're doing here? Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe. And don't forget to follow @faultlines_pod and @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/HPxgyL2v2aE462. Episode 462: Hybrid Threats: Sabotage in Sweden
08:43||Ep. 462Today, Jess, Martha, and Les discuss the news of a sabotage campaign in Sweden, where 32 telecommunications towers along the E-22 highway were deliberately targeted—cables cut, technical equipment destroyed. The attacks fit into a broader pattern of hybrid threats sweeping the Nordic region, widely attributed to Russian intelligence operations, with rising concerns about Chinese involvement as well.Are we witnessing a new phase of grey-zone warfare or is it part of an existing pattern? As NATO launches its Baltic Sentry initiative to protect critical infrastructure, how prepared are our allies for these persistent, murky threats? And with the U.S. dismantling key national security structures, are we losing the ability to go on offense?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out the sources that helped shape our Fellows’ discussion: https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2024/04/26/russias-hybrid-war-against-the-west/index.html https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/the-world-today/2025-03/what-britain-can-learn-nordics-about-fighting-hybrid-threats https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/uk/sweden-probes-massive-sabotage-after-30-telecom-masts-attacked-in-what-officials-call-a-coordinated-strike/articleshow/121695420.cms Follow our experts on Twitter: @marthamillerdc@lestermunson @NotTVJessJonesLike what we're doing here? Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe. And don't forget to follow @faultlines_pod and @masonnatsec on Twitter!461. Episode 461: The Art of the Call
13:33||Ep. 461Today, Les, Morgan, Matt, and Jess unpack the high-stakes phone calls between President Trump and two of the world’s most powerful leaders: Russia’s Vladimir Putin and China’s Xi Jinping. Trump’s first official call with Xi since taking office covered Taiwan, semiconductors, and student visas—but skipped over Russia, NATO, and North Korea. Meanwhile, a call earlier in the week with Putin followed Trump’s praise of Ukraine’s recent drone strike campaign, prompting warnings from Moscow and raising questions about U.S. positioning in the ongoing conflict.Is the U.S. reclaiming its role at the center of international diplomacy—or just talking in circles? With no concrete deliverables yet, the question remains: what will actually come after the calls?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out the sources that helped shape our Fellows’ discussion: https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/05/politics/trump-xi-trade-call https://apnews.com/article/trump-china-xi-tariffs-negotiations-trade-f2e4b48205001d7169ee34250089d8c1 https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/politics/trump-putin-phone-call-ukraine-response https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qg23gqllwo Follow our experts on Twitter: @lestermunson @morganlroach@NotTVJessJones@WMattHaydenLike what we're doing here? Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe. And don't forget to follow @faultlines_pod and @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/FuBAbFK6o2E460. Episode 460: Operation Spiderweb: Ukraine Strikes Back
10:52||Ep. 460Today, Jess, Les, and Jeffrey unpack Operation Spiderweb, Ukraine’s long-planned and massive drone strike that targeted strategic bombers across multiple Russian airfields. With over 100 drones launched and no advance notice to the U.S., the attack caught Washington off guard and it showcased Ukraine’s growing operational autonomy.What does Ukraine’s drone strike reveal about the future of asymmetric warfare? Does the Operation mark the beginning of a new phase in the conflict—one where Russia’s rear areas are no longer safe? How should the U.S. respond to being left out of the loop?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Follow our experts on Twitter: @NotTVJessJones@lestermunson Like what we're doing here? Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe. And don't forget to follow @faultlines_pod and @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/jHhHTnbbl10459. Episode 459: Shangri-La Signals: the Future of Indo-Pacific Strategy
07:55||Ep. 459Today, Morgan, Martha, and Jess unpack key takeaways from the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore, where Secretary Hegseth reaffirmed the Indo-Pacific as a U.S. priority—but also told regional allies that they need to take more responsibility as America turns inward. Meanwhile, China continues its campaign of aggression, and Europe is slowly waking up to Beijing’s threat—with President Macron calling for alliances against “spheres of coercion.”Can the U.S. credibly claim leadership in the Indo-Pacific without a coherent economic strategy? As allies grow wary of Trump’s tariff-first approach and the perception of the U.S. as a destabilizing force grows, will they begin shaping a regional architecture that leaves America behind?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out the sources that helped shape our experts’ opinions. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/30/hegseth-warns-asia-allies-that-china-threat-is-imminent-00378700 https://www.axios.com/2025/05/31/rubio-trump-china-students-tariffs-rare-mineralsFollow our experts on Twitter: @morganlroach @marthamillerdc@NotTVJessJonesLike what we're doing here? Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe. And don't forget to follow @faultlines_pod and @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/28BJTk4tG4E