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11. the original fangirl (w/OUR MOM! veronica cherry)

Amanda and Amber are joined by THEIR MOM Veronica Cherry this Mother's Day weekend to talk their chaotic family fangirl stories & celebrity encounters, her 80s fandoms, her current fandoms, & the origins of A & A's fangirling (spoiler: Veronica had something to do with it).


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    01:08:45|
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    01:22:57|
    3 BLACK FANGIRLS WALK INTO A BAR… Amanda & Amber are joined by multitalented multifandom writer & comedian Rachel Pegram to discuss the very nature of what causes obsession: the importance of long TV seasons, the addictive qualities of Degrassi, the heartbreak of Doctor Who. Also discussed: Drake/Kendrick beef, Sex and the City, fandom gatekeeping, and One Direction.Follow Rachel: http://instagram.com/iamrachelpegram Tix to Rachel’s solo show TITTY MEAT 7/25: https://ucbcomedy.com/show/titty-meat-2/ Rachel’s weekly show SKIN CONTACT: https://www.instagram.com/skincontactshow/ SHOUTOUTSBlack People Love Paramore Podcast (Degrassi ep): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-people-love-degrassi-ft-jazzmyne-selorm/id1560947474?i=1000606554506 HOSTS: Amanda Layne Miller http://instagram.com/amandalaynemiller Amber Miller http://instagram.com/amberlmiller LISTEN: https://shows.acast.com/fangirlcentral PATREON: http://patreon.com/fangirlcentral for bonus contentFOLLOW: http://instagram.com/fangirl.central on Instagram, TikTok, + YouTubeLINKTREE: http://linktr.ee/fangirlcentral for live shows, news, + moreWEBSITE: https://fangirl-central.com THE DAY I DIDN'T MEET ONE DIRECTION (short film): https://youtu.be/BsWOOxD29r4 TIMESTAMPS00:00 intro/rom coms 2:22 drake/kendrick beef7:11 steven moffat enemy #19:26 SEX AND THE CITY22:41 adults playing teens (euphoria, glee)25:35 final seasons of shows (scandal, SATC)28:40 what makes you obsessed?30:22 addictive qualities: DEGRASSI40:05 fangirl heartbreak: DOCTOR WHO54:56 how can you tell you’re about to fixate?59:04 WE NEED LONG SEASONS1:02:50 pirating & torrenting (SHERLOCK)1:07:08 rachel is truly multifandom1:07:50 astrology interlude1:11:40 AVATAR: THE LAST AIRBENDER1:14:32 fandom gatekeeping (anime, video games, 1D)1:21:35 outro
  • 36. GLEE: RANKED & RAW (w/amanda & amber)

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