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22. our flag means death & ao3 shipping wars (w/amanda & amber)

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WE TALK IT THREW AS A CREW. we’re talking our flag means death s2 e1-3, how we process emotions through high concept worlds and characters, the archive of our own (ao3) shipping bracket drama, & boundaries with media consumption. 🏴‍☠️💜


*OFMD S2 SPOILER CENTRAL* 16:38 & beyond (+trigger warning: character suicidal ideation)


HOSTS: Amanda (@amandalaynemiller) + Amber Miller (@amberlmiller) 

PATREON: http://patreon.com/fangirlcentral for bonus content

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 intro

  • who’s amanda and who’s amber
  • skye sweetnam


4:37 OUR FLAG MEANS DEATH IS BACK


6:41 amber JUST watched ofmd


9:30 atla is also a slow burn


9:47 amber is in pain abt blackbeard

he’s the kraken


10:44 misunderstood characters & being unable to express your emotions in a healthy way

  • no one will ever understand me
  • stubbornly sitting in my sadness
  • being a menace is ed’s coping mechanism


14:13 making sense of emotions thru high concept stories/fantasy & sci-fi


16:38 SPOILER CENTRAL/trigger warning: suicidal ideation — FROM THIS POINT ON


18:45 ed doesn’t understand unconditional love


20:00 stede vs. ed’s fantasies 

  • they love each other for who they are 😭


21:52 our reactions to lucius and black pete’s reunion!!!!!


23:37 ao3 shipping bracket breakdown 


24:30 ed/stede vs. steve/bucky DRAMA

  • FRAUD!!!!
  • fandom history!!!!??!!
  • canon ships are weaker than headcanon ships!!!


26:03 amanda reads out dramatic screenshots


27:41 AMANDA RANTS @ steve/bucky and ten/rose shippers (she’s one of them)


30:00 ofmd and good omens resparked fandom


31:00 there’s annoying fans in EVERY fandom


32:20 shipping is not that serious 

  • edward vs jacob
  • don’t judge people based on their ships
  • there are extreme cases 


33:50 wincest (we haven’t seen supernatural)


34:51 projection on fictional characters has a limit


36:51 is it “cringe” or neurodivergent?

  • ofmd using fanfic tropes
  • outwardly weird and queer and nd fans
  • we can’t hide on tumblr forever 


40:11 fix-it fics save the day


41:30 everyone on ofmd is hot as hell in a queer way


44:00 it is WEIRD to be a fan period. stop trying to disassociate from “weird” fans.


47:47 we need queer cultural stepping stones 


49:00 “name a hobby outside media consumption”

  • nuance
  • jocks vs. nerd mentality


53:00 wrap-up

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