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#30 Thies Johannsen from TUB Germany on Transdisciplinary
Welcome back to the podcast!
As the problems that society faces become more complex there is increasing emphasis on the need for engineers to work across disciplines, with a focus on taking interdisciplinary and transdisciplinary approaches to engineering education. However, there can be a lack of clarity about how such terms are conceptualised within the engineering classroom, this resulting in a lack of concrete teaching interventions. In this episode we speak to Thies Johannsen, a research assistant from TU Berlin who works at the intersection between Social Sciences, Humanities, and STEM disciplines. Thies draws upon his education in Law, Social Sciences, and Politics, and Philosophy, as well as experience in policy making, advising political bodies and consulting for corporate associations and businesses.
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Join Dr. Natalie Wint (University College London) and Dr. Neil Cooke (University of Birmingham) to learn about transdisciplinary engineering education.
Timestamps
0.00 Welcome and introduction to episode
0.25 Podcast Intro
0.50 Experiences in resilience from Natalie and Neil
2.52 Introduction to Thies
7.22 TU Berlin
9.46 Why is transdisciplinary becoming more important in engineering education? Understanding disciplinary routes
11.03 Specialisation, research output and impact, and innovation
14.14 Defining transdisciplinary
17.05 Modes of knowledge
25.34 An example of transdisciplinary work within engineering
29.43 Skills and competencies involved
33.02 Transdisciplinary in the engineering classroom
36.11 Classroom exercises
42.32 Assessment
44.58 Challenges associated with transdisciplinary education
48.03 Final advice
50.27 Key takeaways from Natalie and Neil
Further Reading
Handbook of Transdisciplinary Learning which features Thies’ chapter entitled Cooperative Education
https://www.tu.berlin/en/vp-sl/transdisciplinary-learning/handbook-transdisciplinary-learning
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26:57||Season 4, Ep. 5Hope you are having a great Summer ...We originally conceived the podcast as a project which would run for two years with monthly episodes. As we approach its second anniversary, Neil and Natalie would like to thank everyone listeners and guests for their support in making it into a valuable source of information about the SEFI community and contemporary topics in engineering education. In this episode we summarise the recent interviews and our future plans for the show.00.00 - Introduction00.45 - Listening insights -popular and least popular03.35 - Thanks04.55- Sarah Jayne Hitt on Ethics toolkit (Ep1) - role of liberal arts and the toolkit.09.15 - Roger Hadgraft on Disruption (Ep2) - Doblins framework and synthesis problems13.30 - Diana Martin on Intercultural ethics (Ep3) - Values and western dominance20.30 - Tim Drysdale on Remote laboratories (Ep4) - AI and Digital/Humanism25.40 - Plans4. #25 Tim Drysdale from UoE Scotland on Non-traditional practical work
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01:05:38||Season 4, Ep. 3Welcome back to the third episode of this fourth season of the SEFI podcast! In this first episode we talk to Dr. Diana Martin, a Senior Research Fellow within the Centre for Engineering Education (CEE) at University College London (UCL). Diana applies knowledge obtained during her study of both philosophy and liberal arts in her work into the implementation of ethics, sustainability and societal aspects within engineering education, having completed her PhD project entitled “Towards a Sociotechnical Reconfiguration of Engineering and an Education for Ethics, a Critical Realist Investigation into the Patterns of Education and Accreditation of Ethics in Engineering Programmes” in July 2020.Join Dr. Natalie Wint (University College London) and Dr. Neil Cooke (University of Birmingham) to learn about incorporating a more globalised approach to engineering ethics education.shownotes: https://www.sefi.be/2024/06/17/podcast-season-4-episode-3-european-engineering-educators-is-online/Timestamps0.00 Welcome and introduction to episode0.38 Podcast Intro0.59 Experiences in teaching ethics to engineering students from Natalie and Neil2.31 Diana's Background10.18 How Diana's experiences in different global contexts inform her approach to engineering ethics education11.38 How ethics and intercultural ethics are conceptualised12.37 Individual and collective responsibilities (microethical vs macroethical approaches)16.44 Relevant values within engineering ethics and value sensitive design24.00 The power of engineers in creation of technological artefacts: Introducing participatory/community-based approaches27.15 Variation in meanings and emphasis on values in different contexts and cultures34.33 WEIRD populations37.16 How do we do this in the classroom? Use of PBL to support ethics education during design45.30 Student response to ethics education48.23 The global state of engineering ethics education: International Handbook of Engineering Education Research Chapter 53.56 Final advice from Diana1.01.46 Key takeaways from Natalie and Neil Further Reading This link is for the chapter in the International Handbook for Engineering Education Research entitled “Developing a Global and Culturally Inclusive Vision of Engineering Ethics Education and Research”https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/oa-edit/10.4324/9781003287483-6/developing-global-culturally-inclusive-vision-engineering-ethics-education-research-diana-martin-alison-gwynne-evans-aleksandra-kazakova-qin-zhu?context=ubx&refId=302206b2-3b33-41f7-8d16-3f11278b0a09This paper argues that mainstream value-sensitive approaches to design have been based on narrow understandings of personhood and social dynamics, which are biased toward Western Educated Industrialized Rich and Democratic cultures and contradicted by empirical evidencehttps://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10516-023-09689-9Join us! Become a member of the European Society for EngineeringEducation, SEFI, Europe's largest network of engineeringeducators: www.sefi.be Music by ComaStudio: https://pixabay.com/users/comastudio-26079283/ Written and produced by Neil Cooke and Natalie Wint.2. #23 Roger Hadgraft from UTS Australia on Disruption
01:03:58||Season 4, Ep. 2Welcome back to the fourth season of the SEFI podcast! In the second episode we talk to Professor Roger Hadgraft, Director of Educational Innovation and Research in the Faculty of Engineering and Information Technology at the University of Technology, Sydney (UTS). Roger draws upon more than 30 years of experience in improving engineering educating, having been instrumental in introducing a project-based curriculum within civil engineering at Monash University and in several disciplines at Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology. Join Dr. Natalie Wint (University College London) and Dr. Neil Cooke (University of Birmingham) to learn about the different ways in which we can innovate within engineering education.show-notes: https://www.sefi.be/2024/05/20/podcast-season-4-episode-2-european-engineering-educators-is-online/Timestamps0.00 Welcome and introduction to episode0.39 Podcast Intro0.58 Experiences with problem, project and challenge used learning from Natalie and Neil2.37 Rogers's Background5.21 Engineering education in Australia8.04 Terminology: Changes to approaches to engineering education11.50 Drivers for change15.27 Studio based learning19.07 Assessment of studio-based learning22.22 Disrupting engineering education24.28 Doblin's ten types of innovation and application of the framework in engineering education36.58 Capacity building and buy-in43.57 Resistance to change in engineering education48.16 Looking to the future56.56 Final advice from Roger1:00:11 Key takeaways from Natalie and NeilResources: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03043799308923248https://opus.lib.uts.edu.au/handle/10453/137664https://opus.lib.uts.edu.au/handle/10453/132516https://opus.lib.uts.edu.au/handle/10453/141604https://opus.lib.uts.edu.au/handle/10453/138648https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/oa-edit/10.4324/9781003287483-7/disrupting-engineering-education-euan-lindsay-roger-hadgraft-fiona-boyle-ron-ulsethhttps://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-99-5873-3_11https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-99-5873-3_10https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-981-99-5873-31. #22 Sarah Jayne Hitt from EPC UK on Ethics Toolkit
48:02||Season 4, Ep. 1Welcome back to the fourth season of the SEFI podcast! In this first episode we talk to Professor Sarah Jayne Hitt, who, amongst her many roles, project manages the Engineering Professors Council or EPC’s Ethics Toolkit, a resource designed to help engineering educators embed ethics in teaching. Join Dr. Natalie Wint (University College London) and Dr. Neil Cooke (University of Birmingham) to learn about the power of crowdsourcing in capacity building in teaching engineering ethics. Timestamps0.00 Welcome and introduction to episode0.16 Podcast Intro0.35 Experiences in teaching ethics to engineering students from Natalie and Neil2.34 Sarah's Background5.45 The Engineering Professors Council (EPC)7.35 The role of Liberal Arts in Engineering Education9.52 The Joint Statement of Ethical Principles and its role in the toolkit12.33 How the toolkit came about 14.44 What does the toolkit consist of? 16.37 The crowdsourcing process and creation of the toolkit 19.31 The role and benefits of the review process 20.11 The benefits of crowdsourcing and diversity of contributors22.08 Navigating the Ethics Explorer and the landscape 25.55 The growth and future of the toolkit27.04 What makes a good case study?29.56 An example of a case study from the toolkit33.12 Consideration for micro and macro ethics35.00 Guidance documents 39.33 What still needs to be done?42.22 Final advice from Sarah44.01 Key takeaways from Natalie and NeilResources: Ethics Explorer - Engineering Professors Council (epc.ac.uk)Educating the Whole Engineer by Integrating Engineering and the Libera (taylorfrancis.com)https://www.ijee.ie/latestissues/Vol38-3/07_ijee4189.pdfhttps://raeng.org.uk/media/kr0j2ejr/rae-engineering-ethics-full-report_v7.pdfhttps://serc.carleton.edu/geoethics/Decision-Makinghttps://epc.ac.uk/toolkit/tackling-tough-topics-in-discussion/https://epc.ac.uk/resources/toolkit/about-toolkits/contribute-a-resource-to-one-of-our-toolkits/Join us! Become a member of the European Society for EngineeringEducation, SEFI, Europe's largest network of engineeringeducators: www.sefi.be Music by ComaStudio: https://pixabay.com/users/comastudio-26079283/ Written and produced by Neil Cooke and Natalie Wint.