Mark, Bonnie, Sarah and Nippy strategize with Catherine Oxenberg about how to get her daughter, India, out of DOS, even though she wants to stay.  "Jane" a former member and India's close friend, describes the appeal of the organization -- and why she left it all behind. You can watch on HBO

The Vow Ep #4: Building Character

I done fucked up...

So Lois Reiss went on a wild ride that resulted in two murders and lots of gambling debts.   So was it worth it Lois???If you are interested in more information on the Britney Spears conservatorship!Emily D Baker’s Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE-laOeM9gLfTcWF4HRBPpA" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE-laOeM9gLfTcWF4HRBPpA</a>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/TheEmilyDBaker/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/TheEmilyDBaker/</a>Emily’s Original Britney Podcast Episode:<a href="https://youtu.be/HoI99tHIL7k" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/HoI99tHIL7k</a>The recent updates: <a href="https://youtu.be/BEj8wZdkQbg" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/BEj8wZdkQbg</a>Going over ALL the Britney docs: <a href="https://youtu.be/9_R2sivbnfw" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/9_R2sivbnfw</a>GET EXCLUSIVE CONTENT ON OUR PATREON!$5 a month, extra episode every week and early access to that week’s regular episode! Join us!<a href="https://www.patreon.com/excusemewhatpodcast">https://www.patreon.com/excusemewhatpodcast</a>HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR CURRENT PATRONS!  Your support means everything to us!Elizabeth KJay KMary KTia MKayla AReferences:<a href="http://www.citypages.com/news/the-wild-murderous-story-of-killer-grandma-lois-riess-continues-to-unfold/560250731" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.citypages.com/news/the-wild-murderous-story-of-killer-grandma-lois-riess-continues-to-unfold/560250731</a><a href="https://magazine.atavist.com/the-pretender-lois-reiss-minnesota-florida-gambling-murder" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://magazine.atavist.com/the-pretender-lois-reiss-minnesota-florida-gambling-murder</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsuH1TuG8p4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsuH1TuG8p4</a><a href="https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/04/26/lois-riess-court-documents/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/04/26/lois-riess-court-documents/</a>TWO GIRLS - ONE MIC - ONE SQUEAKY FUTONF I N D  U S!Show Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp</a>Show Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast</a>Show YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g</a>Mia’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16</a>Mia’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/</a>Mia’s Cake Deco IG: <a href="https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq</a>Jillian’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/JillianKjer" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/JillianKjer</a>Jillian’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/</a>EMAIL US:  excusemewhatpodcast@gmail.comFYI: The BEST place to follow us is on Instagram!Welcome to Excuse Me What?! Podcast!  Our names are Jillian and Amelia {aka Mia}. We are two sisters that live in MN, USA.  In this podcast we talk about all the weird shit you want to know about like paranormal activity, true crime, ufos, aliens, conspiracy theories and cryptozoology.  We like to keep it light hearted and super casual with a few curse words while we give you the info. Like the show and want to help out? Rate us and review us! SHARE US WITH LITERALLY EVERYONE YOU KNOW!  We really want to GROW!!!!  Thank you so much for checking us out!Intro/Outro Music:Author: Kevin MacLeodWebsite - <a href="http://incompetech.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://incompetech.com/</a>Royalty Free Link - <a href="http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-..." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-...</a>

Ep #76: Lois Riess' Wild Ride

Sarah confides in Mark about DOS, a secret women's group involving "masters" and "slaves".  She struggles in her relationships with NXIVM, her husband Nippy, and her best friend.  Nippy confronts the organization he's helped grow for 15 years.  Sarah and Mark lament how many members they've recruited and question what to do next.

The Vow Ep #3: At Cause

This week we talk about a case that was requested by Kelsey on IG!  Whitney Heichel was a 21 year old woman that left her apartment on the morning of October 16th 2012 to go to work.  She never made it though....GET EXCLUSIVE CONTENT ON OUR PATREON!$5 a month, extra episode every week and early access to that week’s regular episode! Join us!<a href="https://www.patreon.com/excusemewhatpodcast">https://www.patreon.com/excusemewhatpodcast</a>HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR CURRENT PATRONS!  Your support means everything to us!Elizabeth KJay KMary KTia MKayla AReferences:<a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/murdered-barista-whitney-heichel-raped-shot-times/story?id=17534209" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://abcnews.go.com/US/murdered-barista-whitney-heichel-raped-shot-times/story?id=17534209</a><a href="https://jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com/2012/10/whitney-heichels-kidnapping-and-murder.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com/2012/10/whitney-heichels-kidnapping-and-murder.html</a><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whitney-heichel-murder-autopsy-shows-barista-died-of-multiple-gunshot-wounds/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whitney-heichel-murder-autopsy-shows-barista-died-of-multiple-gunshot-wounds/</a><a href="https://www.kptv.com/news/guilty-man-who-killed-whitney-heichel-gets-life-in-prison/article_a28df52b-7b3e-5bb5-9f35-4a3abce44114.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.kptv.com/news/guilty-man-who-killed-whitney-heichel-gets-life-in-prison/article_a28df52b-7b3e-5bb5-9f35-4a3abce44114.html</a><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/whitney-heichel-missing-oregon-barista-found-dead-man/story?id=17524469" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://abcnews.go.com/US/whitney-heichel-missing-oregon-barista-found-dead-man/story?id=17524469</a><a href="https://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/2013/07/whitney_heichels_family_confro.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/2013/07/whitney_heichels_family_confro.html</a><a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220528/Whitney-Heichel-Heartbreak-family-missing-womans-body-hidden-mountainside.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220528/Whitney-Heichel-Heartbreak-family-missing-womans-body-hidden-mountainside.html</a><a href="https://youtu.be/m9loLpmxgYo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/m9loLpmxgYo</a><a href="https://youtu.be/OzUQSxtmhrI" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/OzUQSxtmhrI</a>TWO GIRLS - ONE MIC - ONE SQUEAKY FUTONF I N D  U S!Show Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp</a>Show Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast</a>Show YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g</a>Mia’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16</a>Mia’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/</a>Mia’s Cake Deco IG: <a href="https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq</a>Jillian’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/JillianKjer" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/JillianKjer</a>Jillian’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/</a>EMAIL US:  excusemewhatpodcast@gmail.comFYI: The BEST place to follow us is on Instagram!Welcome to Excuse Me What?! Podcast!  Our names are Jillian and Amelia {aka Mia}. We are two sisters that live in MN, USA.  In this podcast we talk about all the weird shit you want to know about like paranormal activity, true crime, ufos, aliens, conspiracy theories and cryptozoology.  We like to keep it light hearted and super casual with a few curse words while we give you the info. Like the show and want to help out? Rate us and review us! SHARE US WITH LITERALLY EVERYONE YOU KNOW!  We really want to GROW!!!!  Thank you so much for checking us out!Intro/Outro Music:Author: Kevin MacLeodWebsite - <a href="http://incompetech.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://incompetech.com/</a>Royalty Free Link - <a href="http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-..." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-...</a>

Ep #75: Whitney Heichel's Abduction & Murder

After seven years, Bonnie leaves Albany and NXIVM for Los Angeles to make sense of it all. She tries desperately to get through to Mark, who reassures her all is well. Meanwhile, Mark remains loyal to Keith and NXIVM, but a series of phone calls begin to sow doubt within him. TWO GIRLS - ONE MIC - ONE SQUEAKY FUTONF I N D  U S!Show Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp</a>Show Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast</a>Show YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g</a>Mia’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16</a>Mia’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/</a>Mia’s Cake Deco IG: <a href="https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq</a>Jillian’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/JillianKjer" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/JillianKjer</a>Jillian’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/</a>EMAIL US:  excusemewhatpodcast@gmail.comFYI: The BEST place to follow us is on Instagram!Welcome to Excuse Me What?! Podcast!  Our names are Jillian and Amelia {aka Mia}. We are two sisters that live in MN, USA.  In this podcast we talk about all the weird shit you want to know about like paranormal activity, true crime, ufos, aliens, conspiracy theories and cryptozoology.  We like to keep it light hearted and super casual with a few curse words while we give you the info. Like the show and want to help out? Rate us and review us! SHARE US WITH LITERALLY EVERYONE YOU KNOW!  We really want to GROW!!!!  Thank you so much for checking us out!

The Vow Episode 2: Viscera

Literally the first 18 minutes of this episode is us just talking about stuff so hopefully you won't mind. :DGET EXCLUSIVE CONTENT ON OUR PATREON!$5 a month, extra episode every week and early access to that week’s regular episode! Join us!<a href="https://www.patreon.com/excusemewhatpodcast">https://www.patreon.com/excusemewhatpodcast</a>HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR CURRENT PATRONS!  Your support means everything to us!Elizabeth KJay KMary KTia MKayla AReferences:<a href="https://www.washingtonian.com/2015/10/23/the-scary-weird-somewhat-true-story-of-the-fairfax-bunny-man/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.washingtonian.com/2015/10/23/the-scary-weird-somewhat-true-story-of-the-fairfax-bunny-man/</a><a href="https://research.fairfaxcounty.gov/local-history/bunnyman" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://research.fairfaxcounty.gov/local-history/bunnyman</a>Mini doc<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E-65iYMybk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E-65iYMybk</a>Trailer<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBgpUc6EglY" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBgpUc6EglY</a>Virginia Paranormal<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvWEtdSDT74" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvWEtdSDT74</a>TWO GIRLS - ONE MIC - ONE SQUEAKY FUTONF I N D  U S!Show Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp</a>Show Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast</a>Show YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g</a>Mia’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16</a>Mia’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/</a>Mia’s Cake Deco IG: <a href="https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq</a>Jillian’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/JillianKjer" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/JillianKjer</a>Jillian’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/</a>EMAIL US:  excusemewhatpodcast@gmail.comFYI: The BEST place to follow us is on Instagram!Welcome to Excuse Me What?! Podcast!  Our names are Jillian and Amelia {aka Mia}. We are two sisters that live in MN, USA.  In this podcast we talk about all the weird shit you want to know about like paranormal activity, true crime, ufos, aliens, conspiracy theories and cryptozoology.  We like to keep it light hearted and super casual with a few curse words while we give you the info. Like the show and want to help out? Rate us and review us! SHARE US WITH LITERALLY EVERYONE YOU KNOW!  We really want to GROW!!!!  Thank you so much for checking us out!Intro/Outro Music:Author: Kevin MacLeodWebsite - <a href="http://incompetech.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://incompetech.com/</a>Royalty Free Link - <a href="http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-..." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-...</a>

Ep #74: The Bunny Man

Episode one synopsis:Mark Vicente and Sarah Edmondson, high-ranking former NXIVM leaders, describe the dream and mission of NXIVM to build a better world. Bonnie Piesse, Mark's wife, tells him she's worried about the organization and Keith Raniere, NXIVM's leader and Mark's mentor. Mark wonders how could tools to make a better, more ethical world be misused? Find on HBOThis documentary series from Oscar®-nominated, Emmy®-winning directors Jehane Noujaim and Karim Amer ("The Square," "Control Room," "Startup.com") follows members who joined the self-improvement group NXIVM--its leader, convicted of sex trafficking and racketeering conspiracy, among other crimes--to reveal the emotional toll of unfolding events on these individuals. TWO GIRLS - ONE MIC - ONE SQUEAKY FUTONF I N D  U S!Show Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp</a>Show Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast</a>Show YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g</a>Mia’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16</a>Mia’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/</a>Mia’s Cake Deco IG: <a href="https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq</a>Jillian’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/JillianKjer" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/JillianKjer</a>Jillian’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/</a>EMAIL US:  excusemewhatpodcast@gmail.comFYI: The BEST place to follow us is on Instagram!Welcome to Excuse Me What?! Podcast!  Our names are Jillian and Amelia {aka Mia}. We are two sisters that live in MN, USA.  In this podcast we talk about all the weird shit you want to know about like paranormal activity, true crime, ufos, aliens, conspiracy theories and cryptozoology.  We like to keep it light hearted and super casual with a few curse words while we give you the info. Like the show and want to help out? Rate us and review us! SHARE USTWO GIRLS - ONE MIC - ONE SQUEAKY FUTONF I N D  U S!Show Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/excusemewhatp</a>Show Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/excusemewhatpodcast</a>Show YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OapfhAUBT7wWNhYrvTz-g</a>Mia’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ameliabedilia16</a>Mia’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/miabia1637/</a>Mia’s Cake Deco IG: <a href="https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/miabiacakes?igshid=pr1dyd4i8wzq</a>Jillian’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/JillianKjer" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/JillianKjer</a>Jillian’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jilliankjer/</a>EMAIL US:  excusemewhatpodcast@gmail.comFYI: The BEST place to follow us is on Instagram!Welcome to Excuse Me What?! Podcast!  Our names are Jillian and Amelia {aka Mia}. We are two sisters that live in MN, USA.  In this podcast we talk about all the weird shit you want to know about like paranormal activity, true crime, ufos, aliens, conspiracy theories and cryptozoology.  We like to keep it light hearted and super casual with a few curse words while we give you the info. Like the show and want to help out? Rate us and review us! SHARE US

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