Eleven After Nine | A Porsche Culture Podcast

Porsche makes some very good electric cars. But are they actually the best EVs? I wanted to answer that question with someone who has driven nearly everything.Jonny Lieberman is Senior Features Editor at MotorTrend, host of Driving With Jonny, co-host of The InEVitable, and a regular on Spike’s Car Radio. He has driven everything from early Porsche 911s to the Taycan Turbo GT Weissach with the Manthey kit around the Nürburgring.And Jonny has opinions.We talk about what Porsche gets right with the Taycan, Macan EV and new electric Cayenne, where Tesla, Rivian and Lucid are ahead, why Porsche still refuses to embrace one-pedal driving, and whether removing the engine and sound takes away part of what makes a Porsche feel special.We also get into one of the most interesting opportunities in the Porsche market right now: depreciation. When a Porsche that originally cost well over $100,000 can suddenly be bought used for $40,000 to $50,000, should Porsche enthusiasts start paying attention?CONNECT WITH JONNY LIEBERMANDriving With Jonny:https://www.youtube.com/@drivingwithjonnyInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/jonnylieberman/MotorTrend:https://www.motortrend.com/author/451144/jonny-liebermanJonny’s Official Links:https://linktr.ee/jonnyliebermanThe InEVitable:https://theinevitablepodcast.podbean.com/Spike’s Car Radio:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spikes-car-radio/id1247694648CONNECT WITH ElevenAfterNineWebsite and Porsche Consulting:https://www.elevenafternine.com/Main YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@ElevenAfterNineEleven After Nine Podcast YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@ElevenAfterNinePodcastInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/theelevenafternine/Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/eleven-after-nine-a-porsche-culture-podcast/id1887344928Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0fpVL61pWEZDkaygT7cGZhCONTACT11afternine@gmail.comBuying a Porsche and want a second opinion before you wire the money? One-on-one Porsche buyer consulting is available at ElevenAfterNine.com.QUESTION FOR YOUWould you buy a heavily depreciated used Taycan, or would you spend the same money on a gas-powered Porsche?And if Porsche eventually makes the Boxster and Cayman electric, can they still feel like real Porsches?CHAPTERS00:00 - Meet Jonny Lieberman01:06 - Are Electric Porsches Actually Good?02:30 - Taycan vs Audi RS e-tron GT03:14 - The Problem With the Electric Macan04:54 - Porsche’s Electric Cayenne Strategy07:01 - Why Jonny Loves BMW’s Electric 7 Series10:19 - Did Porsche Bet Wrong on EVs?11:18 - What Happens to the Electric Boxster and Cayman?13:40 - Can an EV Still Feel Like a Porsche?18:08 - When Did Engine Sound Become So Important?25:19 - Can Porsche Make an EV Feel Special?27:40 - Tesla Full Self-Driving Changes the Conversation29:38 - Jonny’s Tesla FSD Torture Test31:20 - The Cybertruck and the Family of Skunks33:29 - Porsche vs Tesla Driver Assistance39:05 - Tesla and Rivian vs Traditional Automakers39:46 - Why Porsche Won’t Use One-Pedal Driving42:16 - Is Porsche Holding Onto the Past?44:26 - Porsche Adds Fake Gears to the Taycan46:42 - Do Fake Gears Belong in an Electric Porsche?52:03 - Why Over-the-Air Updates Matter54:08 - Tesla’s Hidden Software Advantage56:08 - Volkswagen’s Software Problem59:50 - Used Taycan Depreciation: Problem or Opportunity?1:03:40 - Why Lucid May Survive1:08:01 - Did Porsche Enter the EV Market at the Wrong Time?1:11:05 - Why Should Anyone Buy a Porsche EV?1:12:43 - Which Taycan Generation Should You Buy?1:16:10 - The Secret to Successful EV Ownership1:18:19 - Jonny’s Favorite Porsche Ever1:26:51 - The Best Porsche for $60,000 to $75,0001:28:29 - 997 vs 991 vs Air-Cooled 9111:31:06 - The Porsche Carrera T Jonny LovesElevenAfterNine is an independent enthusiast podcast and is not affiliated with, authorized by, or endorsed by Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.

Most Porsche owners spend years worrying about mileage, paint, value, and keeping the car perfect. Kris Clewell has put well over 100,000 miles on his 1972 Albert Blue Porsche 911T, driven it across the country, taken it down roads most owners would never consider, and he thinks we may be missing the point.Kris is the co-founder of Overcrest, host of the Overcrest Podcast, photographer, filmmaker, writer, and one of the people whose work helped shape the way I think about old cars and road trips.He also happens to own the same year and color Porsche as I do, a 1972 Albert Blue 911T.What started as a conversation about those two cars turned into something much bigger.This ended up being one of my favorite conversations I've had on ElevenAfterNine. If you own a Porsche, an old car, a motorcycle, or anything else that gives you an excuse to go somewhere, I think there is something in this episode for you.The car isn't the point. What you do with it is.IN THIS EPISODE• More than 100,000 miles in Kris's 1972 Porsche 911T• How cheap Volkswagens eventually led Kris to Porsche• Rebuilding his first 911SC himself• The $150,000 offer that almost bought his 911• Why his kids are one reason he may never sell it• Why he drives a valuable air-cooled Porsche on gravel• Why Kris considers paint a wear item• Cars as tools for exploration• Why you shouldn't waste the "in-between"• Driving, solitude, and flow state• The emotional moment that created Overcrest• What makes an Overcrest Rally different• How Kris scouts routes to create real experiences• The incredible Renault Le Car story from rural OregonFOLLOW KRIS CLEWELL & OVERCRESTOvercrest:https://overcrestproductions.comOvercrest Rally:https://overcrestproductions.com/pages/rallyOvercrest Podcast:https://overcrestproductions.com/pages/podcastYouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@overcrestproductionsInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/overcrestproductionsWATCH DAS ZIELKris Clewell and Alex Nelson's cross-country film featuring Kris's 1972 Porsche 911:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGtKUcGBBwEElevenAfterNineWebsite & Porsche Consulting:https://www.elevenafternine.com/YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@ElevenAfterNineInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/theelevenafternine/Contact:11afternine@gmail.comElevenAfterNine is an independent enthusiast podcast and is not affiliated with, authorized by, or endorsed by Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.

Are Porsche owners spending thousands more for performance they can barely use?This week on ElevenAfterNine, I sit down with Manny Alban, former National President and current Technical Director of the Porsche Club of America, to talk about why the "base" Porsche may actually be one of the smartest and most enjoyable cars in the lineup.Manny has driven an enormous range of Porsches, from base Carreras and Boxsters to GT cars, Turbo S models, the 918 Spyder, and just about everything in between. His take surprised me. When Porsche sends cars to PCA for testing, the base models are often the ones everyone wants to drive.We get into what happens when you start adding horsepower, all-wheel drive, rear-wheel steering, carbon buckets, center locks, Sport-Tex, PASM, Porsche Sport Exhaust and other expensive options. At what point are you improving the car, and when are you simply buying more Porsche than you can actually use?We also talk about two used Porsches Manny believes are up and coming.IN THIS EPISODE:Why Porsche doesn't actually call the Carrera a "base 911"Why PCA testers often prefer the least expensive versionBase Carrera vs Carrera S vs GTSWhy lower horsepower can make a Porsche more funRear-wheel drive vs all-wheel driveWhich Porsche options Manny always recommendsWhy carbon bucket seats may be the wrong choiceManny's problem with Sport-Tex and Alcantara steering wheelsWhy he thinks Porsche center locks make little sense on a street carThe story behind PCA's 60th Anniversary Club CoupeHow modern stability systems make today's Porsches easier to drive fastWhy modern Porsches may simply be too fast for public roadsWhy the 991.1 Carrera may be one of today's best Porsche buysWhy buyers shouldn't automatically fear an early BoxsterManual vs PDKThe one Porsche Manny would choose if he could only have oneCONNECT WITH MANNY AND THE PORSCHE CLUB OF AMERICA:Porsche Club of America:https://www.pca.org/PCA Insider Podcast:https://podcast.pca.org/PCA Insider on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/porsche-club-insider/id1599573815PCA YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/porscheclubofamericaPCA Tech Tactics:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCZmxzg99WQxxBgFOwP1r5O6yfBGTRIsACONNECT WITH ELEVENAFTERNINE:Website:https://elevenafternine.com/Porsche Buyer Consulting:https://elevenafternine.com/consulting.htmlYouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@ElevenAfterNineInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/theelevenafternineListen to Eleven After Nine:https://shows.acast.com/eleven-after-nineApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/eleven-after-nine-a-porsche-culture-podcast/id1887344928Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0fpVL61pWEZDkaygT7cGZhCONTACT:11afternine@gmail.comQUESTION FOR YOU:Would you rather own a well-optioned base Carrera or spend the extra money for a Carrera S or GTS?Let me know below. I'm especially curious to hear from anyone who has owned both.CHAPTERS:00:00 - Meet Manny Alban01:50 - What Does "Base Porsche" Actually Mean?03:13 - Why Manny Loves Base Models04:54 - Building a Carrera T Before the T Existed07:28 - Base Panamera vs Turbo S09:55 - Why 95 Horsepower Can Be More Fun11:43 - Rear-Wheel Drive vs All-Wheel Drive16:13 - Which Porsche Options Are Actually Worth Buying?20:52 - Comfort Seats vs Carbon Buckets22:56 - The Problem With Sport-Tex and Alcantara24:47 - Manny's Problem With Porsche Center Locks28:33 - Inside the PCA 60th Anniversary Club Coupe33:37 - Behind the Scenes With Porsche Designers35:07 - Are Modern Porsches Too Fast?39:29 - The Undervalued Porsche Manny Would Buy42:42 - Why the Early Boxster Deserves Another Look44:45 - Manual vs PDK47:30 - If Manny Could Own Only One Porsche49:01 - Driving the Porsche 918 Spyder50:34 - Why Every Porsche Doesn't Need to Be the Fastest One#Porsche #Porsche911 #Carrera #CarreraS #Porsche991 #PorscheBoxster #PCA #PorscheClubOfAmerica #ElevenAfterNine

Could babying your Porsche actually be shortening the life of its engine?This week on Eleven After Nine, I sit down with Lake Speed Jr., better known as The Motor Oil Geek, for a conversation every Porsche owner should hear.Lake is a Certified Lubrication Specialist, Oil Monitoring Analyst, Porsche owner, founder of SPEEDiagnostix, and one of the people behind the development of Driven Racing Oil. He has spent years studying used oil samples and what they can tell us about engine wear.We start with one of the most debated issues in the Porsche world, bore scoring.Is the commonly quoted 2% bore-scoring rate really the whole story?Lake explains what he found after looking at thousands of oil samples, why elevated iron, aluminum and silicon matter, and why a single oil analysis tells you far less than watching the trend over several oil changes.Then we get into the part that surprised me most.FIND LAKE SPEED JR. / THE MOTOR OIL GEEKThe Motor Oil Geek on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@themotoroilgeekThe Motor Oil Geek on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/themotoroilgeek/SPEEDiagnostix:https://www.speediagnostix.com/SPEEDiagnostix Oil Analysis Kits:https://www.speediagnostix.com/collections/oil-analysis-kitPRODUCTS & RESOURCES MENTIONED Nothing here is sponsored. Lake receives nothing from any oil or fuel brand and said so on the record. Links marked ★ are affiliate links — same price to you, small commission to me. See the disclosure below.Motor oil Driven DT40 — https://amzn.to/4wyUgQ3 — what I run in the 997 Driven DI40 — https://amzn.to/4g4RWLS — for direct-injection engines Mobil 1 ESP 0W-40 X4 — Lake rates this one highly ⚠️ Note: Mobil 1 sells several 0W-40s and they are not the same oil. The Euro FS 0W-40 shears out of grade quickly per Lake's data. Check the exact product before you buy.Fuel system Chevron Techron Complete Fuel System Cleaner — https://amzn.to/4cJSl3U — one bottle, one tank, roughly once a year Top Tier fuel brands: Shell V-Power, Exxon and Mobil Synergy, Chevron, CostcoOil filter Purolator ONE — https://amzn.to/4glDxd7 — what Lake is currently runningAir filter No link on purpose. Lake's advice is to use a high-efficiency OEM-spec filter, avoid aftermarket high-flow filters, and follow the factory replacement interval rather than changing early.NOTE: Always verify the oil viscosity, specification, filter and maintenance requirements for your exact vehicle. Products discussed during the episode were not presented as universal recommendations for every Porsche engine.CONNECT WITH ELEVENAFTERNINEWebsite, Porsche Consulting & More:https://www.elevenafternine.com/Main YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@ElevenAfterNineEleven After Nine Podcast YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@ElevenAfterNinePodcastInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/theelevenafternine/Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0fpVL61pWEZDkaygT7cGZhApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/eleven-after-nine-a-porsche-culture-podcast/id1887344928Contact:11afternine@gmail.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00 - Welcome Lake Speed Jr (@TheMotorOilGeek)02:00 - Lake's Custom Boxster & Sumabore Plasma Technology05:30 - The 2% Bore Scoring Myth vs. Real Data (20,000+ Samples)12:15 - How to Read Iron, Silicon & Aluminum Wear Metals14:40 - Fuel Dilution: The Hidden Enemy of Your Engine Oil22:50 - Top Tier Fuel & Injector Maintenance (Chevron Techron)31:00 - Winter Storage & How Babying Your Porsche Kills It37:20 - Air Filters: Why High-Flow Filters Cause Engine Wear42:00 - Oil Filters & Mobile 1 Formulations Explained50:30 - ZDDP vs. Molybdenum: Chemistry for Alusil & Lokasil Bores58:00 - Cold Starts & Idling: Engine Damage at Low Temps01:08:00 - Lake's Golden Rule for Engine LongevityDisclosure: Lake led development of Driven Racing Oil and I run DT40 in my 997. He isn't paid by me and this episode isn't sponsored. Some links above are affiliate links and I may earn a commission at no cost to you. Nothing Lake recommended was influenced by that.

Most Porsche owners know the cars. Very few ever get to hear how the decisions behind them were actually made.My guest this week is Hugh Robinson, the former Porsche designer who spent 15 years inside Porsche during one of the most important periods in the company's modern history.Hugh helped bring the original Cayenne interior to production, worked on the production interior of the Carrera GT, and created the design that became the 981 Boxster and Cayman.And he has some stories.We get into the internal decisions, arguments, compromises and engineering problems that shaped cars many of us now have sitting in our garages.IN THIS EPISODE:• Why Porsche believed in the Cayenne when many enthusiasts thought it would destroy the company• How the Cayenne helped give Porsche the money and confidence to build cars like the GT3 and GT4• Why Hugh thought Porsche should take the Cayenne racing at Dakar• The real reason the Carrera GT was created alongside the Cayenne• How the Carrera GT's famous high-mounted wooden shifter almost disappeared from the production car• The engineering work required to save that shifter• Why the 918 Spyder needed to debut before the 981 Boxster and Cayman• Why Hugh deliberately wanted the 981 to stop looking like a smaller 911• The single design decision that gave Hugh enough freedom to completely change the 981's shape• What Hugh wanted on the 981 that Porsche would not approve• Why he believes the Boxster should never be considered simply the Porsche you buy when you cannot afford a 911• Hugh's ideal version of the 981 Boxster• The color combination he originally imagined for the 981• His defense of the controversial 996 headlights• Why he believes the 996 and early Boxster are finally getting the appreciation they deserve• The one Porsche Hugh would choose if he could put anything in his garageThis is one of my favorite conversations I've had on ElevenAfterNine. If you love Porsche design, the 981 generation, Carrera GT, Cayenne, 996, or simply want to know how these cars actually went from sketches and clay models to production, I think you're going to enjoy this one.GUEST Hugh Robinson — Porsche design, 1999–2014indiGO Technologies: https://indigotech.comELEVENAFTERNINEWebsite & consulting: https://elevenafternine.com Main channel: https://youtube.com/@ElevenAfterNine Podcast channel: https://youtube.com/@ElevenAfterNinePodcast Instagram: https://instagram.com/theelevenafternine Business: 11afternine@gmail.comBuying a Porsche and want a second opinion before you wire the money? One-on-one consulting is available at ElevenAfterNine.com.Porsche Consulting and Advice for Buyers and Enthusiasts.CHAPTERS0:00 — Introducing Hugh Robinson0:47 — Joining Porsche in 1999: 1,500 people, three body styles4:20 — Finishing the E1 Cayenne interior with VW6:05 — "This is the car that will kill Porsche"8:31 — Why the 356 was practical first11:51 — The beer case is a design requirement12:32 — The first Cayenne was a genuine off-roader14:41 — The Dakar Cayenne that never happened17:38 — Why the Cayenne is the reason you have a GT322:23 — Carrera GT: the counterweight to the Cayenne24:07 — The production car had to match the show car25:30 — "We're not doing another 959" 30:00 — The fight to keep the high-mounted shifter34:11 — Making a race-car shift position actually work37:05 — Why Porsche design is a team sport41:26 — Why the 918 had to launch before the 98146:00 — Designing the 981 as a junior supercar52:44 — The Boxster is not a poor man's 91155:20 — The one thing he lost on the 98156:44 — The design competition: twelve models down to two1:00:53 — The door skin trade and the roof gap1:09:09 — Cabriolet roofs, the 991, and Targas1:17:46 — The 981 Speedster humps1:19:37 — The right color for a Porsche1:22:40 — The 996 "runny egg" headlights, defended1:34:37 — The underdog Porsches about to have their day1:37:38 — One Porsche in his garage1:44:00 — What he's building now at indiGO Technologies

Porsche owners love upgrading their cars. But when does an upgrade actually make your Porsche worse?Andy Hendriksen from the "While You're In There" YouTube channel joins me again for a detailed conversation about one of the easiest places to spend thousands of dollars unnecessarily: suspension.We get into coilovers, OEM suspension, worn shocks, bushings, control arms, alignment, corner balancing, tires, ride height and the expensive parts Porsche owners are often convinced they need.Andy has tried Bilstein, KW, KONI, Öhlins and plenty of factory Porsche setups across everything from the 993 and 996 to the 987. His conclusion might surprise you.--------------------------------------------------⏱️ CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS--------------------------------------------------00:00 - Sunday Morning Catch-Up & Emergency Pancakes01:29 - PCA Downeast Region "Porsches in the Park" & Dempsey Center03:37 - Detailing Tools, Polishing Paint & Flow State08:00 - How Do You Know Your Porsche Suspension Is Shot?13:10 - How Worn Rear Suspension Ruins Front Steering Feel16:40 - OEM vs. Aftermarket: Coilovers, Monoballs & Over-Adjustability25:15 - DIY Mechanical Tips: Rust, Safety & The Spring Compressor Rule31:15 - Why OEM Porsche Suspension Design Is Underrated34:25 - The OEM-Plus Sweet Spot (987 Spyder Springs & Koni Sports)37:15 - Ohlins Road & Track: The Ultimate Street Setup39:55 - The Monoball Mistake: Why Solid Bushings Ruin Street Porsches43:12 - Proper Alignment Mechanics, Kinematic Toe & Corner Balancing49:50 - String Alignments vs. The $10,000 CSM Performance Laser System56:30 - The Single Best Driving Upgrade: Tires & Michelin Pilot Sport 4S01:01:17 - Guessing Andy’s New Mystery Porsche (Engine in Back, 3 Pedals)01:06:38 - Introducing Elferlog: The Digital Maintenance Logbook for Porsches--------------------------------------------------🔗 MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE & FEATURED LINKS--------------------------------------------------• Track & Organize Your Porsche Records: https://elferlog.com• CSM Performance Alignment Systems: https://csmperformance.com/• Dempsey Center (Cancer Support Services): https://www.dempseycenter.org/• PCA Downeast Region: https://der.pca.org/Amazon links below. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Using these links helps support ElevenAfterNine at no additional cost to you.Quality Spring Compressor:https://amzn.to/4yXh1Q7Metric Socket Set:https://amzn.to/4xnqDSMMetric Crowfoot Wrench Set:https://amzn.to/4wKsvVOImportant: As Andy mentions in the episode, spring compressors deserve extra caution. Buy a quality tool and use it correctly. A compressed suspension spring stores a tremendous amount of energy.--------------------------------------------------📲 CONNECT WITH ELEVENAFTERNINE--------------------------------------------------Main YouTube Channel: YouTube @ElevenAfterNinePodcast YouTube Channel: YouTube @ElevenAfterNinePodcastInstagram: @theelevenafternineWebsite and Porsche Consulting: www.ElevenAfterNine.comQuestions, Porsche consulting inquiries or podcast ideas: 11afternine@gmail.comIf you enjoyed the episode, subscribe and leave a comment below. I want to know what suspension is currently on your Porsche and whether you would stay OEM, go OEM-plus or install coilovers.ElevenAfterNine is an independent enthusiast channel and podcast and is not affiliated with, authorized by, or endorsed by Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.#Porsche #Porsche911 #Porsche997 #Porsche996 #PorscheBoxster #PorscheSuspension #ElevenAfterNine #Elferlog #Ohlins #MichelinPilotSport