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  • 47. All Angles (with Kim Sutherland)

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    OMFGCO Creative Director and author/designer of Rural Kimberly Sutherland joins Sean to talk the horrifying truth about figs, the top ten signs you’re in romcom, and the crowning of Portland’s #1 (vegan) ice cream boi. Why not grab a Gatorade and join the fuuuuuuuuuuuuun!You can find Kimberly’s work all over the ‘net (and IRL):You can find more of Kim’s work—both design and art related—on her website, kimberly-sutherland.com!The OMFGCO Journal, which Kim co-writes with Fritz Mesenbrink, is the best place to go to learn the latest from the studio, and is where you can go first to hear about when the And Then What?! podcast drops. Along with their Journal articles, you can also find audio versions which might be considered soft pilots for the show all on their own! Keep your eyes (and ears) peeled for it and their upcoming merch!If you’re planning on attending Creative Works West 2024 in Seattle at the end of April, Kim will be hosting a workshop on Brand Concepts & Frameworks alongside OMFGCO’s Fritz on Saturday, April 27 at 9am! If you’re interested, hop on over to the Creative Works site to learn more or their Eventbrite to register! As of this writing, tickets are still available!Addendum: Since I’ve come to record this episode, I’ve learned that there are in fact some varieties of figs that do not require wasps to pollinate them. Still, the truth that most figs pretty much consume wasps in order to become figs is undeniably A PROBLEM that we must reckon with as a species if we are going to continue to live on this planet.This episode was recorded Friday, March 15, 2023 in the Rat’s Nest.—One more important thing (or two)!Are you an academic in art, design, or a closely related field? Do you currently hold a tenured rank (associate or full professor?) at a four year university? I NEED YOU! I am beginning the process of applying for tenure this month, which requires me to form a committee of outside evaluators of my materials and offer recommendations to the university about my promotion and tenure. If you already know about this show and understand my work, you’d likely be a good candidate! Please reach out before April 30 and we can talk: sean.schumacher@pdx.edu.If you’re a listener to this show and aren’t in the above boat, you can still help! I’d love to have quotes, letters, and more for my packet describing the impact this and my other research or teaching work has had on you. Those can be collected throughout the summer, but sooner would be better! Reach out if you want to help—I’d really appreciate it! sean.schumacher@pdx.edu

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  • 46. Hot Dogs and PB&J (with Matt Graff)

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    Get those offer codes ready! Creative Director Matt Graff joins Sean to talk Pee-Chee folder portfolios, unusual interview questions, and the six quadrants of action sports marketing.You can find Matt’s work on his website, mattgraff.com. He’s currently looking for his next Creative Direction role, so if your studio is looking for someone, reach out! Matt can also be found on LinkedIn at inkedin.com/in/mattgraff.This episode was recorded Saturday, March 2, 2024 in the Rat’s Nest.
  • 45. Now You See Me Too As Well (”Fontroversy” Crossover with Lena Hall)

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    Lena Hall of Fontroversy is on Did I Do That?! Or Sean Schumacher is on Fontroversy!? We’re all mixed up because it’s a Did I Do That?-Fontroversy acoustic universe crossover spectacular to kick off one of those shows’ fourth season!The two hosts sit down to talk about the process behind getting Fontroversy off the ground, as well as Lena’s Fallout Boy audition outfit, the meltiest car, and the Wizarding World of Woody Harrelson.You can find more about Lena ’s work on their Instagram, @ps.its.lena. They are indeed graduating soon and you should absolutely hire them! You can view Lena's font horoscopes for the both of us here!This episode was recorded Saturday, February 3, 2024 in the Rat’s Nest.Special thanks to the entire team that made Fontroversy possible: Lea Thompson, Lena Hall, Malia Masterson, Whitney McPhie, Ashley Heeke, Sophia Stoker, Anna Stanton, Hannah Joseph, Sophia Mick, Mette Voldengen, Milos Dugas, Freya Kargard, Robert Ditty, Izzy Gavaza, Dana Ives, Kaitlyn Casey, Aline Chercover, and Orion Cortez.Closing Music/The Fontroversy Theme: “How Can Things Be” by Holizna‍
  • Feed Drop: Two Designers Walk Into a Bar

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    To close out our season break, I wanted to share one last feed drop! The creators of Two Designers Walk Into A Bar reached out a few weeks back to connect as fellow creators of media about design that doesn't take design too seriously. They make a really fun show, and this episode comes from the end of their third season covering a subject my students have heard me talk about many times: one of the most financially catastrophic packaging redesigns in history. It's a really wonderful show—give it a listen and then give them a follow! You can find them on whatever podcasting platform you like, as well as Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, X, and LinkedIn!Two Designers Walk Into a Bar, Episode 50: The Pepsi (Logo) ChallengePepsi announced it’s moving forward by moving backwards (sort of), returning to more of a traditional look for their logo and cans. (Think black. It's a slimming color.) But as they kick their last logo to the curb, we go back in time to discuss how they became saddled with this burdensome brand look in the first place. We talk ovals, smiles, globes, magnetic fields and cosmic forces of the universe in this special breathtaking and scientifically-tangential episode.Images, articles and links mentioned in this episode can be found on their episode page: https://www.twodesignerswalkintoabar.com/episodes/episode-50-pepsi-logo-storyThis episode was originally published June 7, 2023.General Podcast Info:Two Designers Walk Into a Bar is a podcast about iconic design and popular culture.Hosted by graphic designers and collectors Todd Coats and Elliot Strunk, the podcast is constantly looking at pop culture and thinking about how it influences us and what we do for a living. Starting with a theme, we choose iconic work that we find meaningful and use humor and insight to break it down, turn it inside out and try to understand why it has stood the test of time.Two Designers Walk Into a Bar encourages listeners to dive into their libraries, mini storage units or memories with us.Discover more at their website: https://www.twodesignerswalkintoabar.com
  • Fontroversy #4: "Helvetica: A U-Turn On a One-Way Street?"

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    Need to thaw yourself out from this winter freeze? Why not let a reheated episode of Fontroversy—our last of the season break—from last summer warm you back up!When Lena and Sean start fuming about the most famous (and infamous) font there is, guest expert Freya Kargard steps in to modernize their thinking about Helvetica. This might well mark our limited series' finale, but stay tuned as we might have one or two surprises in store as well!Segment Producer: Freya KargardResearcher: Robert DittyStory Editor: Izzy GavazaSound Editing and Mix/Mastering: Orion CortezThis episode was recorded Tuesday, May 30, 2023 and originally published on Thursday, August 31, 2023.‍PRODUCTION CREDITSFontroversy was created by the students of DES 399 Public Design Communication in the Spring of 2019 as part of Portland State University’s Graphic Design program in Portland, Oregon. You can learn more about PSUGD at psu.gd. You can learn more about the PSU School of Art+Design at pdx.edu/art-design.Host: Lena HallShow Art: Robert DittySocial Media Coordinator: Ashley HeekeProducer: Sean SchumacherEditorial Assistance by: Orion CortezMusic: “How Can Things Be” by HoliznaFor more about Fontroversy, visit fontroversy.com or follow @fontroversy.psugd on Instagram.‍
  • Fontroversy #3: "Impact: Facebook Mom Vibes?"

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    When frustration around the meme-iest of meme fonts starts to go viral around the studio, guest expert Sophia Mick bursts in to help set Lena and Sean straight on Impact’s… impact.Segment Producer: Sophia MickResearcher: Mette VoldengenStory Editor: Milos Dugas"Candy Paper Wrap Crinkling" Sound Effect by Emile99, licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License.This episode was recorded Tuesday, June 6, 2023 and originally published on Thursday, August 17, 2023.--PRODUCTION CREDITSFontroversy was created by the students of DES 399 Public Design Communication in the Spring of 2019 as part of Portland State University’s Graphic Design program in Portland, Oregon. You can learn more about PSUGD at psu.gd. You can learn more about the PSU School of Art+Design at pdx.edu/art-design.Host: Lena HallShow Art: Robert DittySocial Media Coordinator: Ashley HeekeProducer: Sean SchumacherEditorial Assistance by: Orion CortezMusic: “How Can Things Be” by HoliznaFor more about Fontroversy, visit fontroversy.com or follow @fontroversy.psugd on Instagram.
  • Fontroversy #2: "Comic Sans: From Their Hate Came Love (And Money)"

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    Graphic design may be our passion, but everybody needs a break too! While Did I Do That? is off for a few weeks between seasons, enjoy a few episodes of our sister podcast Fontroversy, produced by one of Sean's classes in Spring 2023. If you missed episode 1, no worries—unlike the glut of superhero cinematic universe movies out there, there's nothing there you need to know to enjoy to this one! If you want to revisit it, though, you can find it here!When a typeface ripped from the funny pages starts to get contentious, surprise guest expert Whitney McPhie (currently serving as Interim Creative Director at Willamette Week) intervenes to school Lena and Sean on what Comic Sans can really do.IMPORTANT EDITORIAL CORRECTION: Gentle Giants Dog Food does NOT, in fact, use Comic Sans on its packaging—it instead uses a DaFont-style Disney-inspired sans paired with, of all things, Bank Gothic Sean apologies for this truly shameful oversight, although in their defense, attempting to look at any one specific type block on the package without being immediately distracted is basically impossible.Segment Producer: Whitney McPhieResearchers: Ashley Heeke, Sophia StokerStory Editors: Anna Stanton, Hannah JosephSound Editing & Mix: Orion CortezThis episode was recorded Tuesday, May 30, 2023, and originally published Thursday, August 3, 2023.---PRODUCTION CREDITSFontroversy was created by the students of DES 399 Public Design Communication in the Spring of 2019 as part of Portland State University’s Graphic Design program in Portland, Oregon. You can learn more about PSUGD at psu.gd. You can learn more about the PSU School of Art+Design at pdx.edu/art-design.Host: Lena HallShow Logo: Robert DittySocial Media Coordinator: Ashley HeekeProducer: Sean SchumacherEditorial Assistance by: Orion CortezMusic: “How Can Things Be” by HoliznaFor more about Fontroversy, visit fontroversy.com or follow @fontroversy.psugd on Instagram.