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This interview was conducted in English.Find this interview and its explanatory dossier at https://www.diagrammes.fr/en/folders/the-manufacture-of-denial Duration: 1h02Naomi Oreskes is an Affiliated Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences at Harvard University. She is an accomplished earth scientist, historian, and public speaker known for her extensive research on the interplay between science, society, and politics. Her work brings critical insights into how scientific knowledge shapes and is shaped by broader cultural and political forces.Her expertise centers on the role of science in society, the reality of anthropogenic climate change, and the pervasive impact of disinformation campaigns that obstruct climate action.In our video interview, Naomi Oreskes discusses the enduring struggle against climate denialism, tracing its roots from tobacco and acid rain skepticism in the 1980s to the far more aggressive and politicized climate denial tactics witnessed today. She elaborates on how the rise of authoritarianism, notably during Donald Trump’s presidency, has fueled a backlash against environmental progress by empowering actors she calls the “merchants of doubt.” Instead of merely discrediting scientific facts, these actors now seek to dismantle the institutions that produce climate research, threatening efforts to address global warming.Oreskes also highlights the stark power imbalance in the climate crisis: while powerful fossil fuel interests use their proximity to political power to maintain the status quo, vulnerable populations around the world face the gravest consequences of inaction. The deliberate production of ignorance, she argues, has become a highly effective weapon wielded by the far right to stall meaningful climate solutions. Our interview, conducted in Boston in March 2025, delves deeply into these urgent issues, offering a vital perspective on the challenges and stakes of contemporary climate politics.CHAPTERS: 00:00:00 – Introduction to The Manufacture of Denial00:04:40 - (Chap.1) The George C. Marshall Institute: From MAD to Star Wars00:14:53 - (Chap.2) White House Interference in the Acid Rain Report00:20:13 - (Chap.3) The Montreal Protocol, a “backdoor to communism”?00:23:36 - (Chap.4) Revelle, Schelling, Nordhaus: From Outright Denial to Organized Delay00:30:14 - (Chap.5) George H.W. Bush’s “White House Effect”01:40:27 - (Chap.6) The New Quality of Climate Denial01:44:44 - (Chap.7) Trump 2.0: From Denial to Destruction01:52:25 - (Chap.8) Carbon Capture as a New Form of Denial01:56:51 - (Chap.9) Difference, Export, and Convergence of DenialInterviewed by Marius BickhardtConducted on the 24th of March 2025Directed by Adam MikaelianEditing by Thierry CorroyerProduced by Vladimir GurewichDossier : Marius BickhardtVisual Reasearch : Sophie LinerMusic by Laz Lo, Eeryskies, Damiens SimonsVoice : Amanda BayPodcast production : Deborah Le GrandSubscribe to our monthly newsletter.To support us, follow and us on social medias:Youtube ‪@Diagrammes‬Instagram :@diagram.me.sBluesky : @diagrammes.bsky.social

This interview was conducted in English.Find this interview and its explanatory dossier at https://www.diagrammes.fr/en/folders/le-laboratoire-argentin Duration: 2h07 Verónica Gago is a prominent Argentinian scholar and activist whose work bridges critical political economy, feminist theory, and the study of grassroots movements. A professor at the University of Buenos Aires and UNSAM, and a member of CONICET, she has been involved in major feminist mobilizations across Latin America, including Ni Una Menos, Marea Verde, and the Feminist Strike.From her role in the collective Tinta Limón Ediciones to her coordination of feminist research groups, Veronica Gago challenges the traditional boundaries between academia and activism. Feminism, as she understands it, does not only deal with issues that are specific to women, such as reproductive rights. Instead, it should be treated as a perspective from which we can understand a wide range of economic, social, and political issues. Her collaborative book A Feminist Reading of the Debt exemplifies this approach: examining the deregulation of financial transactions, austerity programs, and even the ascendency of cryptocurrency through a feminist lens. Veronica Gago shows how macropolitical measures affect and are affected by microsocial practices; or, to use her own terms, how neoliberalism from above interacts with “neoliberalism from below” (the title of her 2014 book).In our conversation, Veronica Gago reflects on the advent of Javier Milei, the libertarian president of Argentina.Just as Chile under Augusto Pinochet was a laboratory for the upcoming neoliberal era, Milei’s Argentina plays the role of a pilot experiment vis-à-vis the mutant neoliberal regimes that are currently taking over the world. Striking features of these new formations include the overtly sadistic deployment of cruelty as a mobilizing tool but also the masochistic appeal to sacrifice, in the name of the nation or even of freedom. To ward off bleak political horizon, Veronica Gago bets on the transformative power of feminist organizing, celebrating la potencia feminista as a “desire to change everything.” Her work can truly serve as a remedy against militant depression.CHAPTERS:00:00:00 – Introduction to ARGENTINIAN LABORATORY00:07:44 - (Chap.1) Collective Experiences of Political Formation00:19:18 - (Chap.2) New Neoliberal Subjectivations00:30:03 - (Chap.3) Baroque Entreprenerial Impulses00:42:58 - (Chap.4) Feminist Organization and Resistance From Below00:59:13 - (Chap.5) The (Un)Surprising Rise of Milei 01:10:10 - (Chap.6) Occupying the State to Destroy It01:18:26 - (Chap.7)The Speculative and Sacrificial Generation01:34:17 - (Chap.8) Gender Identifications and Interpellations01:53:44 - (Chap.9) Neofascism from Above and from Below01:58:40 - (Chap.10) Joyful Militancy in Critical ContextInterviewed by Michel Feher and Eric FassinConducted on the 1st of April 2025 in ParisDirected by Jean-Charles Ho Van Cam and Thierry CorroyerProduced by Aurélie WindelsDossier: Alexandra Bucher and Thomas GmuerVisual Research : Sophie LinerMusic by Laz Lo, Eeryskies, Damiens SimonsVoice : Amanda BayPodcast production : Deborah Le GrandSubscribe to our monthly newsletter.To support us, follow and us on social medias:Youtube ‪@Diagrammes‬Instagram :@diagram.me.sBluesky : @diagrammes.bsky.social#VerónicaGago, #Feminism, #Argentina, #JavierMilei, #Neoliberalism, #SocialMovements, #LatinAmerica, #NiUnaMenos, #FeministStrike,  

This interview was conducted in English.Find this interview and its explanatory dossier at https://www.diagrammes.fr/en/folders/the-wall-street-consensusDuration: 2h41Daniela Gabor is a heterodox economist and professor at the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) in London, where she has established herself as one of the leading international scholars of macro-finance. She earned her PhD in Banking and Finance from the University of Stirling in 2009 and draws inspiration from post-Keynesian economist Hyman Minsky for her critical approach to the relationship between finance and the State. As an expert consultant for the European Parliament, the G20, the United Nations, and several central banks, she bridges academic research with high-level policy debates. Her forthcoming book, to be published by Norton, will focus on what she calls the “Wall Street Consensus.”Focusing on the current interactions among central banks, repo markets, Treasuries and private investors, Daniela Gabor has developed the concept of the de-risking State to describe the growing role of governments in steering and securing private investment deemed socially or politically desirable, for example in the context of climate transition. She is also the author and co-editor of several key volumes in political economy, including Central Banking at a Crossroads (2014), The Routledge Companion to Banking Regulation and Reform (2017), and Rewriting the Rules of the European Economy (2019), co-authored with Joseph Stiglitz and Isabel Ortiz.In this video, Daniela Gabor offers a critical analysis of the evolution of macro-financial regimes, from Bretton Woods and the Washington Consensus to the current Wall Street Consensus. She shows how shifts in economic governance reflect political struggles over the role of private finance in delivering public goods. She questions whether de-risking strategies represent a genuine break with neoliberal orthodoxy or a rebranded form of greenwashing and privatization of the public sphere. Finally, she examines the uncertain future of the Wall Street Consensus in the face of geopolitical turbulence, pointing to the return of the whining hegemon as a possible omen of impending marco-financial change.CHAPTERS:00:00:00 – Introduction to THE WALL STREET CONSENSUS00:07:40 - (Chap.1) Critical Macro-Finance00:20:32 - (Chap.2) The Formation of a “Consensus”00:25:40 - (Chap.3) The Demise of Postwar Regimes00:43:37 - (Chap.4) Washington Consensus VS Wall Street Consensus00:52:31 - (Chap.5) The investibility pact 01:11:51 - (Chap.6) On Derisking01:22:23 - (Chap.7)Varieties of Partnerships01:31:48 - (Chap.8) Sticks and Carrots?01:47:14 - (Chap.9) Speculations on the Trump factor02:11:25 - (Chap.10) Mutations and Resilience of the Wall Street Consensus02:26:19 - (Chap.11) Toward the Big Green State?Interview by Michel FeherConducted on the 11th of April 2025Directed by Jean-Charles Ho Van CamEdited by Thierry CorroyerProduced by Aurélie WindelsDossier by Alexandra BucherVisual Research by Sophie LinerMusic by Laz Lo, Eeryskies, Damiens SimonsVoice by Amanda BayPodcast production : Deborah Le GrandSubscribe to our monthly newsletter.To support us, follow and us on social medias:Youtube ‪@Diagrammes‬Instagram :@diagram.me.sBluesky : @diagrammes.bsky.social#Economics, #Finance, #HeterodoxEconomics, #MacroFinance, #DeRiskingState, #WallStreetConsensus, #CentralBanks, #GreenTransition, #EconomicPolicy, #CriticalEconomics, #SustainableDevelopment, #SocialJustice

Cet entretien a été mené en Français - This interview was conducted in FrenchRetrouvez cet entretien et son dossier explicatif sur https://www.diagrammes.fr/fr/folders/moyen-orient-annee-zero Duree : 3h40Ziad Majed est un politiste franco-libanais né à Beyrouth en 1970. Professeur à l'Université américaine de Paris, il dirige le programme des études du Moyen-Orient et enseigne la science politique ainsi que les relations internationales. Auteur et chercheur reconnu, il s’est spécialisé dans l'étude des transitions démocratiques, des réformes politiques et du rôle de la société civile au Liban, en Syrie et plus largement au sein du monde arabe. Son engagement l’a amené à contribuer à la fondation du mouvement de la gauche démocratique et à participer au soulèvement de l'indépendance du Liban en 2005. Dans cette vidéo, Ziad Majed examine les transformations qui ont affecté les États et les sociétés du Proche-Orient depuis les Accords d’Abraham jusqu'à la campagne génocidaire menée par Israël après les attaques terroristes du Hamas le 7 Octobre 2023. Il propose une analyse de l’incidence régionale et globale des bouleversements en cours, en portant une attention particulière au Liban et à la Syrie. L’entretien s’attache à évaluer les marges de manœuvre des gouvernements de Beyrouth et de Damas, concurremment confrontés aux conflits internes, aux ambitions des puissances avoisinantes – la Turquie, l’Arabie saoudite, l’Iran, le Qatar, l’Égypte – et à l’expansionnisme israélien - soutenu par les États-Unis. Notre entretien avec Ziad Majed a eu lieu à Paris en deux épisodes: le premier, le 9 mai 2025, alors que Donald Trump s’apprêtait à rencontrer Mohammed Ben Salmane à Riyadh; le second, le 30 août 2025, soit deux mois après les bombardements israéliens et américains sur l’Iran. CHAPITRES:00:00:00 – Introduction à Moyen Orient, année zéro00:06:31 - (Chap.1) Donald Trump et l’Iran, le temps de l’indécision  00:25:53 -.(Chap.2) Israël sur trois fronts 00:37:44 - (Chap.3) Le reste du monde arabe : tétanisation et attentisme 00:47:34 - (Chap.4) Après la chute de la maison Assad : de l’euphorie à l’angoisse01:00:50 - (Chap.5) Les premiers pas d’Ahmed Al-Charaa 01:27:01 - (Chap.6) Les marges de manoeuvre du gouvernement libanais01:48:41 - (Chap.7) La question kurde02:07:08 - (Chap.8) Moments fondateurs du Moyen-Orient contemporain 02:38:46 - (Chap.9) L’Iran après la guerre des douze jours02:54:31 - (Chap.10) La décomposition de “l’axe de la résistance”: Liban, Irak03:11:00 - (Chap.11) L’acharnement israélien en Syrie03:29:51 - (Chap.12) Quel horizon ?Propos recueillis le 9 mai et 30 août 2025Entretien avec Michel FeherRéalisation : Thierry Corroyer (mai) et Jean-Charles Ho Van Cam (septembre)Montage : Thierry CorroyerProduction : Aurélie WindelsDossier : Thomas Gmür, Michel Feher et Tom NovakRecherche visuelle : Sophie LinerMusique : Laz Lo, Eeryskies, Damiens SimonsVoix : Marie-Laure BoggioProduction, montage et mixage du podcast : Deborah Le GrandVoix : Deborah Le GrandFollow and support ‪@Diagrammes‬Website : https://www.diagrammes.fr/fr/folders/year-zero-in-the-middle-eastInstagram : instagram.com/diagram.me.sBluesky : bsky.app/profile/diagrammes.bsky.social

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This interview was conducted in English.Find this interview and its explanatory dossier at https://www.diagrammes.fr/en/folders/postdemocracy-in-america Duration: 2h01Joe Lowndes is a prominent scholar of American politics, specializing in the study of right-wing movements, populism, and race. He holds a PhD in Political Science from The New School for Social Research and is currently a Visiting Distinguished Lecturer at Hunter College, after having served as Professor of Political Science at the University of Oregon. Lowndes is the author of influential works such as “From the New Deal to the New Right: Race and the Southern Origins of Modern Conservatism” and, with Daniel Martinez HoSang, “Producers, Parasites, Patriots: Race and the New Right-Wing Politics of Precarity”. His ongoing research includes co-editing “The Politics of the Multiracial Right” and writing “Adventures in Post-Democracy”, an ethnographic exploration of the growing authoritarian tendencies within American political culture.In our interview, Joe Lowndes traces the evolution of the American right from the early 1990s to the present, highlighting key moments such as Pat Buchanan’s failed 1992 campaign, the rise of the Tea Party during the Obama years, and the transformation of the Republican Party under Donald Trump. He offers a striking analysis of how events often portrayed as crises—such as the Charlottesville rally, the COVID-19 pandemic, the Black Lives Matter protests, and the January 6th Capitol assault—have, paradoxically, served to radicalize and embolden Trump’s base. Lowndes also examines the emergence of a multiracial far-right, evidenced by increased minority support for Trump and the participation of activists of color in extremist groups, while emphasizing that racism and xenophobia remain central to Trump 2.0. Finally, he reflects on the blind spots and avoidance techniques of both liberals and the left, noting their reluctance to confront the challenges posed by the new configuration of the American political landscape.A profound and indispensable analysis for understanding the ongoing transformations of American democracy—and the political challenges they pose far beyond the United States.CHAPTERS:00:00:00 – Introduction to Revolutionary conservatism00:06:49 - (Chap.1) The paleoconservative challenge00:27:21 - (Chap.2) The tea party Obama’s fixation00:44:43 - (Chap.3) The fear of a majority-minority nation00:53:41 - (Chap.4) From Charlottesville to the capitol - The view from MAGA01:06:07 - (Chap.5) The rise of a multiracial far-right01:29:14 - (Chap.6) The masculinist factor01:43:03 - (Chap.7) The Democrats’ debacle01:50:23 - (Chap.8) Is it fascism?Interview by Michel Feher and William CallisonDirected by Justin Luis Denis and Thierry CorroyerProduced by Vladimir GurewichDossier: Aurélie Windels and Michel FeherVisual Research : Sophie LinerMusic by Laz Lo, Eeryskies, Damiens SimonsVoice : Amanda BayPodcast production : Deborah Le GrandSubscribe to our monthly newsletter.To support us, follow and us on social medias:Youtube ‪@Diagrammes‬Instagram : instagram.com/diagram.me.sBluesky : bsky.app/profile/diagrammes.bsky.social#Diagrammes #JoeLowndes #PostDemocracyInAmerica  

This interview was conducted in English.Find this interview and its explanatory dossier at https://www.diagrammes.fr/en/folders/revolutionary-conservatism Duration: 1h56Melinda Cooper is currently professor in the School of Sociology at the Australian National University. She earned her Doctorate from the University of Paris VIII (Vincennes-St-Denis) in 2001. She is the author of Life as Surplus: Biotechnology and Capitalism in the Neoliberal Era (2008), Clinical Labour: Tissue Donors and Research Subjects in the Global Economy (with Catherine Waldby, 2014), Family Values: Between Neoliberalism and the New Social Conservatism (2017) and Counterrevolution: Extravagance and Austerity in Public Finance (2024).Her most recent book Counterrevolution exposes the logic of neoliberal public finance, which mandates crushing austerity for wage earners alongside extravagant fiscal and monetary generosity for asset holders. The book demonstrates how this dual imperative has transformed the DNA of capitalism, turning capital gains into the primary profit form and, by that token, precipitating the advent of a new “gilded age.”In this video, Melinda Cooper’s applies her incisive analysis to the most recent transformations of capitalism. As the neoliberal counterrevolution reaches its limits, what lies ahead is neither a return to Keynesianism nor a break with a capitalism, but a new phase in the mutation of neoliberalism: one marked by the unprecedented concentration of capital in the hands of a new generation of “robber barons.” The multinationals of the past are being replaced by former startups, now publicly traded yet still entirely controlled by their founders.To maintain their unchecked power, these oligarchs rely on the backing of political leaders such as Donald Trump, who are likewise committed to dismantling the counterpowers that define the rule of law. This is what Melinda Cooper calls revolutionary conservatism: a project that blends nostalgia for a mythical past with a cult of the visionary entrepreneur, in pursuit of the final liquidation of democracy.An essential analysis for understanding the political stakes of our time.CHAPTERS:00:00:00 – Introduction to Revolutionary conservatism00:05:32 - (Chap.1) All the President’s men00:13:09 - (Chap.2) Hybrid companies00:35:29 - (Chap.3) On patrimonial capitalism00:49:08 - (Chap.4) Cannibalization of the Republican Party00:57:42 - (Chap.5) The little guy vs the fat cats01:13:30 - (Chap.6) The social neoliberalism of the Democratic party01:26:30 - (Chap.7) Hegemony trouble01:36:28 - (Chap.8) Project 2025 and the destruction of the administrative stateInterview by Michel FeherDirected by Thierry Corroyer and Meredith WilliamsProduced by Florence Mention and Aurélie WindelsDossier: Alexandra BucherVisual Research : Sophie LinerMusic by Laz Lo, Eeryskies, Damiens SimonsVoice : Amanda BayPodcast production : Deborah Le GrandSubscribe to our monthly newsletter.To support us, follow and us on social medias:Youtube ‪@Diagrammes‬Instagram : instagram.com/diagram.me.sBluesky : bsky.app/profile/diagrammes.bsky.social#Diagrammes #MelindaCooper #RevolutionaryConservatism

This interview was conducted in English.Find this interview and its explanatory dossier on our website.Duration: 2h04Eyal Weizman, an Israeli-British architect and professor at Goldsmiths, University of London, is the founder and director of the research collective Forensic Architecture. In this interview, we recount the origins, discuss the methodology and explain the evolution of Forensic Architecture, both the agency and the discipline, until the recent publication of A Cartography of Genocide.We also retrace the longstanding involvement of the collective with the Palestinian cause, shed light on troubling resonances between the ongoing Israeli campaign in Gaza and genocidal precedents in Namibia and Guatemala, and examine the contemporary backlash against movements of solidarity with Palestine.CHAPTERS:00:00:00 – Introduction to Genocidal Intent00:05:47 - (Chap.1) Origins of Forensic Architecture : Emergent Coutercartography of Palestine  00:23:45 -.(Chap.2) Between humanism and science : Testimonies reconsidered 00:37:17 - (Chap.3) Displacing Law : Socialized evidence production 00:48:04 - (Chap.4) “A cartography of genocide” : Medics as new witnesses01:04:12 - (Chap.5) Patterns : Facts on the grounds and guilty minds 01:15:02 - (Chap.6) Genocidal resonnances : Guatemala and Namibia 01:23:54 - (Chap.7) “Conditions of life” : Calculus as a mode of control01:34:21 - (Chap.8) Lebensraum : Deployment of the zionist project 01:51:51 - (Chap.9) Continuous Nakba : Failed depolitization and protracted eradication02:03:52 - (Chap.10) Reception since October 2023 : Escalation of the pushback…This episode addresses Forensic Architecture, Gaza, Palestine and international law.Interviewed by Michel FeherConducted on January 26, 2025Directed by Thierry CorroyerProduced by Florence Mention and Aurélie WindelsDossier: Thomas GmuerVisual Research : Sophie LinerMusic by Laz Lo, Eeryskies, Damiens SimonsVoice : Amanda BayPodcast production, editing and mixing : Deborah Le GrandSubscribe to our monthly newsletter to receive new interviews and stay updated.Follow us on social medias : ‬Youtube : ‪@DiagrammesInstagram : @diagram.me.sBluesky : @diagrammes.bsky.social#EyalWeizman #ForensicArchitecture #Genocide #Gaza