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Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny

Safety nets and (un)social media

Ep. 15

As a society, what kind of controls do we want in place to tackle hate speech on social media? And what should we be doing to help lift people out of poverty? Those are among the questions tackled on this week’s Democracy Sausage podcast by guest host Andrew Hughes with panel members Craig Emerson, Maiy Azize, and Shirley Leitch.

Andrew Hughes is a lecturer in marketing at the ANU’s Research School of Management, where he teaches marketing at both undergraduate and postgraduate levels.

Maiy Azize is an experienced campaigner, communicator, and manager. She is currently Director of Media and Communications at Anglicare Australia. Previously, she was responsible for the ACT Greens’ Federal Election Campaign and Territory Election Campaign.

Craig Emerson is an eminent economist with 35 years of experience in public policy, politics, and public service. Dr Emerson is now Managing Director of Craig Emerson Economics, Director of the Australian APEC Study Centre at RMIT, an Adjunct Professor at Victoria University’s College of Business, and a Distinguished Fellow at ANU. He also writes a fortnightly column for The Australian Financial Review.

Shirley Leitch is a Professorial Fellow at the ANU’s Australian Studies Institute. She has written more than 100 peer-reviewed papers and held more than $5 million in national competitive grants. Shirley has undertaken senior advisory roles for government and industry and contributed to numerous government reviews.

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