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59. The Cost of Authenticity in Old and New Relationships
19:28||Ep. 59In this solo episode of Define Normal, host Shelbi explores the challenges of balancing past friendships with her present identity. Growing up in the predominantly white, conservative suburbs of Dayton, Ohio, meant navigating spaces where she couldn’t fully express herself. Now, as a Black woman living in New York City, Shelbi reflects on how she’s showing up authentically for the first time and how that’s impacted her relationships.She shares the concept of archival friendships—those relationships formed during earlier stages of life—and discusses the tension that arises when her newer friends struggle to understand those connections. Shelbi also opens up about feeling judged for her past self while embracing the freedom to define her normal.If you’ve ever felt torn between your past and present selves or grappling with the complexities of evolving friendships, this episode is for you.Resources Mentioned:Friendship Breakup episode of Table PancakesJoin the Define Normal community:Follow Shelbi on Substack for weekly reflections and updates during the off-season.Stay connected with Define Normal on Instagram.Get in touch! You can email us at definenormalpod@gmail.com or leave a voice memo here. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show—your support means everything!58. Why 27 Feels So Weird: Navigating the Quarter-Life Crisis
32:07||Ep. 58Are you in your late twenties and feeling like life just got weird? You're not alone. It's an age where you're caught between the carefree days of early adulthood and the pressure to have life figured out. In this solo episode of Define Normal, Shelbi explores why this age is such a turning point and shares lessons she's learned with the benefit of hindsight at 31.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why 27 feels like a second coming-of-age.The emotional tug-of-war between youthful freedom and adult responsibilities.What I wish I had known at 27 that could have saved me so much stress.How to embrace the discomfort of growing into the next version of yourself.Join the Define Normal community:Follow Shelbi on Substack for weekly reflections and updates during the off-season.Stay connected with Define Normal on Instagram.Get in touch! Email us at definenormalpod@gmail.com or leave a voice memo here. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show—your support means everything!57. Exploring Family Values with My Dad: Ray Jones on Career Lessons, Confidence, and Generational Wisdom
01:00:15||Ep. 57In this episode, Shelbi sits down with her Dad, Ray, to discuss the foundations of family values, career growth, and personal and professional identity evolution. Through heartfelt stories, Ray reflects on his upbringing in a close-knit family in New Orleans and the role of education in shaping his life's journey. He shares defining moments in his career, the challenges and joys of parenthood, and his experience raising adult children.Together, Shelbi and Ray explore generational dynamics, examining how communication between parents and children has transformed over time. They discuss shifts in parenting styles, the significance of cultural identity, and how self-worth and confidence are essential for overcoming life's challenges. Ray shares the importance of family connections in today's fast-paced, dispersed world and his pride in watching the next generation achieve their dreams. The conversation also touches on how dreams and aspirations evolve, the impact of open dialogue, and the legacy of resilience passed down within their family.Tune in for an episode filled with generational wisdom, reflections on cultural identity, and inspiring insights on family bonds and life's evolving journey.Join the Define Normal community:Follow Shelbi on Substack for weekly reflections and updates during the off-season.Stay connected with Define Normal on Instagram.Get in touch! Email us at definenormalpod@gmail.com or leave a voice memo here. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show—your support means everything!56. Bracing Ourselves: Reflections on Election Day and the Call to Keep Going
23:03||Ep. 56In this episode, Shelbi reflects on her Election Day experience, recounting how she approached the day with quiet determination. She describes casting her vote, filling her day with moments of comfort and connection, and bracing herself for the results as they trickled in. This time, unlike in 2016, she wasn’t shocked—just resolved to keep moving forward, anchored by a sense of purpose.Shelbi also shares a reading of Saeed Jones's Substack piece, Take a Beat and Breathe with Me. Jones's words remind us that even when times are challenging, each of us has a unique role to play. “If this country really is a house on fire, we chose to live out our lives here because we are water,” he writes, inspiring listeners to believe in the impact they can make.Later in the episode, Shelbi welcomes three friends to discuss their thoughts on the election. They cover topics including:Key issues that mattered most to them this electionHow this election season felt different compared to othersTheir hopes and expectations for the changes and conversations they want to see moving forwardShelbi closes the episode with a call to action, reminding listeners that the work must go on. She believes that everyone has something essential to contribute and is uniquely positioned to make a difference.Join the Define Normal community:Follow Shelbi on Substack for weekly reflections and updates during the off-season.Stay connected with Define Normal on Instagram.Get in touch! Email us at definenormalpod@gmail.com or leave a voice memo here. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show—your support means everything!55. Nightlife and Community: Liam Rogers on How Queer Spaces Shape Belonging and Expression
01:03:37||Ep. 55In this episode, Shelbi and Liam dive into the complex world of nightlife, examining its unique role as a space for freedom, healing, and community—especially within queer and marginalized groups. Together, they unpack nightlife as a form of therapeutic release and the balancing act between work and play, underscoring the need for unstructured, liberating fun.Liam opens up about his journey with alcohol, sharing how his relationship with drinking has evolved. The conversation highlights the importance of spaces that foster belonging, expression, and solidarity, contrasting the sense of community found in queer and POC-centered spaces with the often less inclusive environments of predominantly straight, white nightlife.Shelbi and Liam also compare the party scenes in Berlin and New York City, discussing how factors like work-life balance, social safety nets, and even Germany's spa culture contribute to a more relaxed European nightlife approach. They explore the recent shifts in NYC nightlife, with a growing embrace of carefree, inclusive party spaces that celebrate genuine connection and self-expression.The episode also explores how technology and social media have reshaped the nightlife scene, impacting social interactions and the club experience. Shelbi and Liam discuss the shift in social habits following the pandemic, including a decline in going out and evolving social norms among younger generations. As they wrap up, they reflect on the importance of reconnecting with the roots of nightlife culture to create authentic connections.Find Liam Online:InstagramJoin the Define Normal community:Follow Shelbi on Substack for weekly reflections and updates during the off-season.Stay connected with Define Normal on Instagram.Get in touch! Email us at definenormalpod@gmail.com or leave a voice memo here. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show—your support means everything!54. Greedy and Proud: Jen Winston on Bisexuality, Identity, and Representation
56:29||Ep. 54Before the interviews from this season, there are two episodes from the April 2023 archives to post. This episode is the second interview of the two.In this conversation, Jen Winston delves into her memoir Greedy: Notes from a Bisexual Who Wants Too Much, exploring her coming-out journey and the potential for adapting her memoir into a TV series. She reflects on the critical importance of bisexual representation and the complexities surrounding identity while weaving social issues into her narrative. Jen addresses critiques of her work and shares her thoughts on the shifting landscape of bisexual visibility in media. She opens up about her experiences with open relationships, navigating the intersections of sexuality and patriarchy, and the crucial role that communication plays in social justice. Jen also discusses her evolving relationship with queer sexuality and the impact of pornography on sexual education and introduces her forthcoming fiction, which examines themes of maternal ambivalence. Throughout the conversation, she highlights the vital role of community and empathy in the bisexual experience.Find Jen Online:Buy a copy of GreedyInstagramJoin the Define Normal community:Follow Shelbi on Substack for weekly reflections and updates during the off-season.Stay connected with Define Normal on Instagram.Get in touch! Email us at definenormalpod@gmail.com or leave a voice memo here. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show—your support means everything!53. Unpacking Creativity: Cole Habersham on Dating, Writing, and Self-Discovery
39:40||Ep. 53Before the interviews from this season, there are two episodes from the archives to post. This interview is from April 2023.In this conversation, Cole Habersham shares his journey as a writer and creator, discussing the evolution of his writing, the vulnerability involved in sharing personal stories, and the impact of social media on his life. He reflects on his transition from New York to LA, the importance of community, and the dynamics of dating in different cities. Cole emphasizes the significance of intentionality in both friendships and creative pursuits while navigating the complexities of self-discovery and personal growth. Shelbi and Cole discuss the nuances of online dating, particularly the differences between New York and LA dating cultures. They explore Cole's creative aspirations, including his goal to write a novel and his current writing projects. The discussion also delves into faith and spirituality, consumerism in fashion, and the importance of sharing one's voice and experiences. Throughout the conversation, they emphasize the significance of self-expression and the empowerment of embracing one's creativity.Find Cole Online:TikTokSubstackInstagramJoin the Define Normal community:Follow Shelbi on Substack for weekly reflections and updates during the off-season.Stay connected with Define Normal on Instagram.52. State of the Union: Shelbi Returns to Define Normal
10:17||Ep. 52In this solo episode, Shelbi returns to the Define Normal podcast after taking a hiatus in February 2023. In this "State of the Union" update, Shelbi reflects on the whirlwind of life changes she's experienced over the past year and a half, from navigating her 20s and dealing with burnout to stepping into her 30s with newfound clarity and purpose.Shelbi opens up about the challenges and growth of being laid off from Clubhouse, the launch and pause of her friendship-focused podcast Table Pancakes, and why she felt a powerful pull to come back to Define Normal.The conversation dives into the powerful concept of quitting—why it's often viewed negatively and how it has become one of Shelbi’s most liberating decisions. She shares that quitting isn't a sign of failure but a catalyst for fresh starts, self-discovery, and critical reflection.Listeners will hear real conversations about burnout, career pivots, and learning to let go of things that no longer serve them. Shelbi also announces that Define Normal is transitioning to a seasonal format. This will give her the time to produce thoughtful episodes with incredible guests while staying connected with her audience through weekly Substack posts during the off-season.Join the Define Normal community:Follow Shelbi on Substack for weekly reflections and updates during the off-season.Stay connected with Define Normal on Instagram.Get in touch! Email us at definenormalpod@gmail.com or leave a voice memo here. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show—your support means everything!51. Recap of the Generation Women Show & Thoughts on Turning 30, Friendship, and Sensitivity
18:49||Ep. 51In this solo episode, host Shelbi Jones briefly recaps her experience performing at the Generation Women show. She reflects on the power of storytelling and how the event allowed her to connect with other women across generations. The episode then delves into her thoughts on turning 30, discussing the reflections and growth of entering a new decade of life. She also shares her feelings on friendship and the vulnerability of being sensitive, touching on a TikTok video she created about the topic.Key Links Mentioned in the Episode:Generation Women Show (YouTube)TikTok Video on SensitivityJoin the Define Normal community:Follow Shelbi on Substack for weekly reflections and updates during the off-season.Stay connected with Define Normal on Instagram.Get in touch! Email us at definenormalpod@gmail.com or leave a voice memo here. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show—your support means everything!
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