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Ep 10: Where does Big Tobacco make its products?

Welcome to season two of Deadly Industry: Challenging Big Tobacco, the podcast where we explore the tactics used by the tobacco industry as it pursues profit over health.


Dr John Mehegan and Fred Dunwoodie Stirton are in the studio with Louis in this episode to explore the tobacco supply chain and its global reach. They talk about the dangers of tobacco production at various stages, how Big Tobacco exerts influence on countries that produce tobacco and why some companies hide their links to the global supply of tobacco.


Fred Dunwoodie Stirton is a PhD candidate at the University of Bath and a former member of the Tobacco Control Research Group. His work focuses on the tobacco supply chain, specifically the experiences of farmers and labourers in low and middle income countries.


Dr John Mehegan is the Research Data Manager with the Tobacco Control Research Group at the University of Bath. John has spent most of his career working in the application of techniques across the IT spectrum in a research environment, in particular in Public Health research over the last 15 years. In recent years, as well as working on the development of the tobacco supply chain database, John has been researching how to leverage recent developments in AI in the field of tobacco control.


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Deadly Industry: Challenging Big Tobacco is a weekly podcast from the Tobacco Control Research Group at the University of Bath. It is hosted by Louis Laurence, produced by Kate White and edited by Sacha Goodwin. The production manager is Jacqueline Oliver.


To get in touch, e-mail us at tobacco-admin@bath.ac.uk or find us on LinkedIn, Bluesky and X. Find more episodes here: https://shows.acast.com/deadly-industry-challenging-big-tobacco


The views expressed in this episode by the podcast participants (host and guests) are their own and do not reflect the views of the University of Bath or any other affiliate groups.

For information on the Tobacco Control Research Group's funding sources please read the following statement: www.bath.ac.uk/corporate-information/centre-for-21st-century-public-health-statement-on-funding-sources

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