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Why Every Brand Wants a Piece of Bravo
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Reality TV has shaped the fabric of American society, from the White House to Summer House (sorry, had to). And Bravo-lebrities are some of the hottest tickets in town: racking up brand deals and starting their own companies and media empires which succeed or fail by their on-screen reputations.
To better understand the state of play on all things Bravo and brands, we invited Gibson Johns to join us in the studio. He’s a Bravo aficionado, freelance writer, and host of the ‘Gabbing with Gib’ podcast. We discuss the Skinnygirl theory of brand building, the Bravo wink, why even the Kardashians keep coming back to reality TV, the new franchises he is most bullish on, and of course… the Summer House Reunion!
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The Limits of Gatekeeping Fandom
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What Is “Youth Culture” in a Gerontocracy?
33:21|Youth is vanishing. In a material sense, birth rates are plummeting around the globe and older people are staying in positions of power across both the public and private sector for longer periods of time. It’s also vanishing in a cultural sense, too thanks to a steady stream of reboots, remakes, and de-aged celebrities, as studios and execs bet on proven hits vs. net-new creative.Against this ossified backdrop, just how much is youth actually leading culture? And are we even giving them a chance? To learn more, we spoke with Samuel Moyn, a Kent Professor of Law and History at Yale University and the author of the upcoming book “Gerontocracy in America: How the Old Are Hoarding Power and Wealth—and What to Do About it.” He breaks down why gerontocracy poses one of the biggest challenges to a thriving youth culture and, by proxy, to creative risk taking.
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