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The Gun That Triggered an Investigation | The Charles Manson Story Episode 13
In Episode 13 of 'The Charles Manson Story,' Alex recounts the moment when ten-year-old Steven Weiss found a .22 caliber revolver in his backyard, leading to a significant but initially overlooked police investigation. The episode delves into the LAPD's response, the relocation of the Manson Family to Death Valley, and the control tactics employed by Charles Manson to maintain his hold over his followers. The narrative also covers the cult's desperate attempts to find a mythical 'bottomless pit,' their increasing internal strife, and the ominous preparations for an anticipated attack. This episode provides crucial insights into the unraveling of the Manson Family's activities, including key eyewitness accounts and law enforcement's gradual tightening of the net around them.
00:00 Introduction to Episode 13
00:49 Discovery of the Gun
01:44 LAPD's Response
03:47 The Manson Family's Relocation
05:02 Life at Barker Ranch
05:51 The Mythical Bottomless Pit
06:49 Control Through Fear
08:01 Ruth Ann's Enthusiasm for Violence
08:44 Defections and Dilemmas
19:06 Barbara Hoyt's Escape
21:44 The Press Conference and Manson's Paranoia
23:19 The Search for the Bottomless Pit Continues
24:26 Park Rangers Close In
29:07 The Joint Raid Plan
30:16 Tex's Desperate Escape
31:12 Dissension in Manson's Ranks
31:35 Kitty and Stephanie's Escape Attempt
32:26 Unfolding the Manson Case
32:56 Crime Experts' Analysis
36:03 The Psychology of Confession
37:23 Charlie's Paranoia and Control
39:45 The Significance of the Found Firearm
46:08 Cults and Stupid Decisions
46:56 Building to the Raid
Tom Wood is a former murder squad detective and Deputy Chief Constable of Lothian and Borders Police in Scotland. Tom worked on many high profile murder cases including Robert Black, Peter Tobin and was part of the team investigating The World’s End Murders from day one until 37 years later when the culprit, Angus Sinclair was finally convicted. Tom was latterly the detective in overall charge of The World’s End murder investigation.
Tom is now retired from the Police and is a successful author.
Tom Wood's Books
Ruxton: The First Modern Murder https://amzn.eu/d/25k8KqG
The World's End Murders: The Inside Story https://amzn.eu/d/5U9nLoP
Simon is a retired Police Officer and the best selling author of The Ten Percent, https://amzn.eu/d/5trz6bs a memoir consisting of
stories from the first part of his career as a police officer. From joining in 1978,
being posted in Campbeltown in Argylll, becoming a detective on the Isle of
Bute, Scotland, through to the Serious Crime Squad and working in the busy Glasgow
station in Govan.
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Further reading on the Charles Manson which helped influence this podcast:
Manson: The Life and Times of Charles Manson by Jeff Guinn
Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders by Vincent Bugliosi and Curt Gentry
Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties by Tom O'Neill
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Season 5 of Crime Time Inc. broadens its reach across two sides of the Atlantic.
This season features cases from Scotland and across the wider UK — rooted in real investigative experience — alongside deep dives into some of the most infamous murder cases in American history.
Hosted by former detectives Simon and Tom, with experience in both the UK and the United States, including time working alongside the FBI, the show strips away sensationalism to explain how crime and justice really work.
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14. Navigating Crime and Compassion
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13. The Blue Rock Springs Murder Investigation
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8. Facial Recognition and Corroboration
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7. Retail Crime Gangs, Public Enquiries and more.
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