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(484) Deborah Wingert on Marcia Dale Weary, Balanchine, and Preserving Ballet Lineage

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Today on the Conversations on Dance podcast, we talk with former New York City Ballet dancer and Balanchine répétiteur Deborah Wingert about her early training at Central Pennsylvania Youth Ballet, where rigorous daily classes, musical and artistic context, and early teaching responsibilities shaped her discipline and curiosity. Wingert recounts being accepted to the School of American Ballet, performing key workshop roles, and joining NYCB at 16, including formative experiences and personal coaching from George Balanchine before his death in 1983. She describes thriving as a detail-oriented “sponge,” navigating later casting and body-image pressures, and building a wide repertory across Balanchine and Robbins works. After leaving NYCB, she began teaching privately and at multiple New York schools, then expanded into staging Balanchine works around the world.



00:00 Meet The Hosts

00:11 Debra Wingert Overview

01:35 First Ballet Spark

04:16 CPYB Magic And Context

06:31 Rigor And Early Teaching

14:24 SAB Audition And Move

16:50 Workshop Breakthrough Roles

18:57 Joining NYCB At Sixteen

25:10 Balanchine Coaching Moments

27:21 Life After Balanchine

28:19 Other SAB Teachers

33:22 Body Image And Confidence

35:09 Backstage Ballet Devotion

35:34 Staying in the Company

36:39 Outside Projects and Robbins

38:07 Leaving NYCB and Starting to Teach

40:55 Outreach and Repertory Staging

43:10 Learning to Stage New Works

45:33 Musicality and Version Options

51:18 Keeping Patterns and Details Alive

55:56 Dream Ballets and Future Stagings

01:04:06 Closing Thanks and Signoff


Conversations on Dance was the recipient of the 2024 Clive Barnes Award for Journalism and Media Achievement.


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