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#118 - The Legend of Billie Jean - Female Empowerment and Being Transformed into a Symbol
The Legend of Billie Jean is a 1985 film that tells the story of a young woman who becomes an outlaw after a series of unfortunate events. While originally seen as a comic book movie with a kickass soundtrack, the film has become even more relevant in modern times due to its portrayal of social media and public perception. This podcast explores the film's strong female lead, Billie Jean, and her transformation into a symbol of standing up for what's right. It also touches upon the film's representation of fatherlessness, showing that even in the absence of a father figure, one can still find strength and rise above their circumstances.
As Billie Jean went on the run, a legend formed around her. She became a symbol of standing up to people and doing what's right, someone people wished they could be like. Her story was inspiring, especially to a younger audience.
Join us as the hosts of Podcasting After Dark and Two Dollar Late Fee unpack this hidden gem from the 1980s.
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