Bucking the Trend: with Eduardo da Costa

We delve into the captivating intersection of art and economics with William Goetzmann, a distinguished professor at Yale University. With a unique background that spans both the arts and financial sectors, Goetzmann offers an insightful perspective on how art functions not just as a cultural artifact, but also as an investment vehicle.Goetzmann begins by sharing his journey from artist and filmmaker to economics professor, highlighting his passion for understanding the role of art in society. He argues that the aesthetic impulse is deeply embedded in human nature, with evidence of artistic expression dating back hundreds of thousands of years. This long-standing connection between art and human behaviour raises intriguing questions about how we assign value to artistic works.

In the inaugural episode of Series 2 of the "Bucking the Trend" podcast, the host conducts an interview with Mr Mike Hall, a senior art technician at Tate with 35 years of experience. The podcast seeks to examine diverse career trajectories within the art world, with a particular focus on individuals of colour. Hall, of Jamaican descent, serves as a compelling exemplar of this narrative. He elucidates his role as an art handler, operating discreetly behind the scenes to realise artists’ visions. His work entails the installation of a broad array of pieces, ranging from traditional paintings to multimedia exhibits, such as a shark preserved in a tank. His duties require collaboration with curators and artists, necessitating a careful balance of practicality, budgetary constraints, and safety considerations, whilst adeptly navigating both logistical and creative challenges

This series of interviews, with the Bipoc directors of London institutions. Regarding their careers. A conversational podcast; bucking the trend aims to mark this extraordinary moment in London's visual art world, where despite the statistics at the bottom and middle of the art world are stark and show a net underrepresentation of Bipoc individuals. There's been a buck in the trend at the top. Which I wish to archive for posterity.

This series of interviews, with the Bipoc directors of London institutions. Regarding their careers. A conversational podcast; bucking the trend aims to mark this extraordinary moment in London's visual art world, where despite the statistics at the bottom and middle of the art world are stark and show a net underrepresentation of Bipoc individuals. There's been a buck in the trend at the top. Which I wish to archive for posterity.

This series of interviews, with the Bipoc directors of London institutions. Regarding their careers. A conversational podcast; bucking the trend aims to mark this extraordinary moment in London's visual art world, where despite the statistics at the bottom and middle of the art world are stark and show a net underpresenation of Bipoc individuals. There's been a buck in the trend at the top. Which I wish to archive for posterity.

This in a series of interviews, with the Bipoc directors of London institutions. Regarding their careers. A conversational podcast; bucking the trend aims to mark this extraordinary moment in london's visual art world, where despite the statistics at the bottom and middle of the art world are stark and show a net underpresenation of Bipoc individuals. There's been a buck in the trend at the top. Which I wish to archive for posterity.

Zoe Whitley The director of Chisenhale Gallery - "master's tools will never dismantle the master's house" The first episode in a series of interviews, with the Bipoc directors of London institutions. Regarding their careers. A conversational podcast; bucking the trend aims to mark this extraordinary moment in london's visual art world, where despite the statistics at the bottom and middle of the art world are stark and show a net underpresenation of Bipoc individuals. There's been a buck in the trend at the top. Which I wish to archive for posterity. Whitley and I will be conducting a conversational excavation of her career and life. Enjoy.