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Sucharita Kodali of Forrester on the Ever-Changing Landscape of the Consumer Economy
On this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Sucharita Kodali, Vice President and Principal Analyst at Forrester, returns to the podcast to discuss the current state of the consumer economy, the impact of inflation, interest rates, and consumer spending.
Sucharita sheds light on the resilience of the US economy despite challenges like inflation, interest rate hikes, and an inverted yield curve. She explains that consumers have been spending enthusiastically, especially on discretionary categories like travel and leisure, even though there were concerns about a potential recession. She talks about the "pandemic paradox," where despite health and education crises, households emerged financially stronger.
The discussion also covers the prospect of future interest rate hikes and how brands can navigate the economic landscape. Despite inflationary pressures, consumers have shown little inclination to shift to cheaper options, making the market favorable for brands. However, she predicts that once consumers exhaust their savings, the competitive dynamics will change, leading to possible price reductions and more cautious spending.
Sucharita mentions that certain sectors, like housing, aren't as impacted by seasonality and increasing supply could potentially drive down costs. However, the movement towards urban areas for work might sustain spending in these regions. Sucharita's expertise shines as she offers a positive outlook for the US economy, predicting a favorable business environment through the back half of the year and possibly beyond.
Key Takeaways:
- In the face of gloom and doom financial forecasts, tracking consumer behavior is still your best source of understanding
- Give your customers a “why” to spend on your brand as opposed to potentially cheaper alternatives
- Embrace uncertainty as an opportunity for growth and innovation in your business
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Suntory’s Brand-First Transformation: John Alvarado On Modernizing Spirits Marketing
20:23|In this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Rachel Tipograph and Sarah Hofstetter are joined by John Alvarado, U.S. Chief Brand Officer at Suntory Global Spirits. As more companies replace traditional CMO roles with Chief Brand Officers, John explains why brand-building—not just marketing—is central to growth, especially in a category steeped in heritage and ritual.From transforming Jim Beam’s go-to-market strategy to embracing Gen Z’s flavor-first preferences, John shares how Suntory is putting the consumer at the center of everything—from digital upskilling to cultural collabs. Plus, a personal story about bravery that’s both touching and cinematic.Key Takeaways:Why Brand Still WinsIn an age of economic uncertainty, Suntory is doubling down on brand equity rather than discounting. John shares how this conviction is fueling consumer love and long-term loyalty.Upskilling with PurposeFrom media to marketing, Suntory’s teams are evolving into digital generalists. John reveals how a “fail forward” culture and clear alignment have made upskilling more than a box-checking exercise.Flavors, Funnels, and the Future of SpiritsWith Gen Z entering the category, Suntory is leaning into bold flavors, limited-time offerings, and full-funnel marketing. Learn how launches like Jim Beam Pineapple reflect a new generation’s preferences and pace.👉 Tune in to learn how one of the world’s most iconic spirits portfolios is embracing modern marketing while honoring what made its brands iconic in the first place.Simply Good Foods’ Stuart Heflin on Building Quest Nutrition’s Culture and Category Leadership
27:20|How do you scale a high-growth brand after acquisition without losing the culture that made it special?On this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Rachel Tipograph and Sarah Hofstetter speak with Stuart Heflin, Senior Vice President & General Manager, Quest Nutrition at Simply Good Foods, about how Quest has tripled in size since joining Simply Good Foods while staying true to its mission and scrappy DNA.Stuart explains how the "flip the macros" product strategy guides every innovation, why democratizing ideas across all levels fuels their culture, and how Quest navigates an increasingly competitive high protein, low sugar market. He also details the company's omnichannel approach, integrating retail media, packaging design, and digital influence to win across physical and digital shelves.Key takeaways:Protect culture at all costs. Flat structures and open forums keep teams engaged and inventive.Use strategy as a filter. If a product cannot flip the macros to high protein, high fiber, low sugar, low net carbs, it does not launch.Treat omnicommerce as a lifestyle, not a channel. Digital is part of the consumer’s daily reality, requiring seamless full funnel execution.Mondelez’s Andrew Lederman on Bringing Startup Agility to Global Digital Commerce
21:13|How do you infuse startup agility into a $3B global commerce engine?On this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Rachel Tipograph and Sarah Hofstetter sit down with Andrew Lederman, VP of Global Digital Commerce at Mondelez, for a wide-ranging conversation on building at scale while moving with speed. From founding a startup acquired by Alibaba to transforming digital commerce at AB InBev and now Mondelez, Andrew shares how his entrepreneurial DNA shapes his leadership at one of the world's largest CPG companies.He opens up about balancing local autonomy with global vision, the value of taking big swings instead of "safe bunts," and navigating the signal vs. noise of today's crowded tech landscape. With deep candor and clarity, Andrew explains how consumer obsession—not competitor fixation—drives long-term growth, and why brave leadership often means placing smart bets on the future.Plus, hear his answer to our signature closing question—and why he says being a father tops his list of courageous moves.Key Takeaways:Lead with Empathy, Act with Clarity: To drive transformation in large organizations, meet teams where they are and align them with a shared vision of the future.Prioritize Consumer Needs Over Competitive Noise: Long-term growth comes from solving real consumer problems—not chasing what others are doing.Make Strategic Bets with Confidence: Balancing short-term impact with long-term vision requires bold decision-making and operational excellence.Whether you're scaling digital commerce or trying to future-proof your brand, this episode offers a grounded, strategic, and motivating listen.Riboli Wines’ Jenna Steele on Reinventing Wine for the Digital Consumer
23:33|In this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Rachel Tipograph and Sarah Hofstetter speak with Jenna Steele, Vice President of E-commerce and Digital at Riboli Wines. Jenna shares how she is leading transformation in a category rooted in tradition, from building a tech-forward e-commerce function to using digital shelf insights to engage a new generation of wine drinkers.She discusses how consumer confusion, generational preferences, and emerging wellness trends are reshaping the Alcohol landscape, and why she believes wine is poised for a major comeback. Jenna also outlines the tech stack powering her team, the role of retail media in attracting new customers, and how strong partnerships fuel innovation in a highly regulated category.Key takeaways:Wine’s comeback depends on reducing consumer friction and repositioning it as approachable and wellness-alignedTech stacks that integrate AI, digital shelf analytics, and compliant path-to-purchase tools are essential to modernizing Alcohol e-commerceFamily-owned businesses can drive agile innovation by staying laser-focused on the consumer instead of Wall StreetVelcro Companies’ Chitra Ebenezer on Showcasing Creativity and Versatility
21:04|In this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Rachel Tipograph and Sarah Hofstetter speak with Chitra Ebenezer, Chief Marketing Officer at Velcro Companies. Chitra shares how the VELCRO® Brand inspires creativity across a wide range of consumer and industrial use cases, and how she balances B2B and B2C marketing strategies to drive growth.She highlights the role of campaigns like “ORIGINAL THINKING®” and “EASY. DOES IT.” in shaping brand perception, and the importance of influencer programs and user-generated content to showcase versatility and build engagement. Chitra also reflects on how Velcro Companies maintains its position as the original hook-and-loop fastener in a competitive market.Key takeawaysEducating consumers on VELCRO® Brand’s infinite use cases requires a balance of awareness, inspiration, and community-driven contentB2B and B2C marketing strategies can complement each other to strengthen brand relevance globallyInfluencer and creator partnerships are critical to inspiring new use cases and driving salesWella Company’s Bianca Bolouri on Building Global eCommerce Strategies
24:23|In this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Rachel Tipograph and Sarah Hofstetter speak with Bianca Bolouri, Vice President of Global eCommerce at Wella Company. Bianca shares how her experience at L’Oréal and her work at Wella have shaped her approach to leading teams, building culture, and driving growth in a rapidly changing beauty and professional care landscape.She discusses how a mix of global beauty expertise and startup energy enables Wella to balance speed and discipline across its consumer and professional businesses. Bianca also shares her perspective on the evolving role of DTC, the emergence of pro-grade products for home use, and how global trends in beauty are shaping consumer expectations in other categories.Key takeawaysL’Oréal’s culture creates leaders who thrive under high expectations, adaptability, and ownershipDTC is not dead, but serves a different role today as a brand-building and loyalty engineGlobal beauty trends, like pro-grade at-home care and compressed innovation cycles, are redefining consumer expectations across categoriesRick LaBerge on Building HARIBO’s U.S. Growth with Joy and Discipline
25:35|In this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Rachel Tipograph and Sarah Hofstetter speak with Rick LaBerge, Chief Commercial Officer of HARIBO of America. Rick shares how HARIBO has grown household penetration in the U.S. from 10 to 28 percent in the last decade while staying focused on its founding values of quality, trust, and childlike happiness.He discusses the unique challenges and advantages of working for a century-old, family-run company with deep roots in care, as well as the importance of manufacturing locally and understanding the American shopper. Rick also highlights how HARIBO is translating the joyful, colorful in-store candy experience to digital commerce, and what it takes to build lasting retailer relationships.Key takeawaysLong-term thinking drives growth. HARIBO’s U.S. success stems from investing in local manufacturing, understanding seasonal rituals, and making product decisions with generational goals in mindBrand values create differentiation. Staying focused on joy, quality, and trust has helped HARIBO outperform competitors in a crowded candy categoryDigital experience matters. Translating HARIBO’s visual, sensory brand into eCommerce environments has been key to driving conversion onlineAndrea Zahumensky on Leading with Care, Speed, and Authenticity at Kimberly-Clark
27:00|In this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Rachel Tipograph and Sarah Hofstetter speak with Andrea Zahumensky, President of North America Baby and Child Care Transformation and Canada at Kimberly-Clark. Andrea shares how the company’s long-standing commitment to solving consumer problems through science and innovation continues to guide its growth.She discusses how leading with care, both internally and externally, becomes more powerful when backed by results, and how challenger brands have helped sharpen Kimberly-Clark’s go-to-market strategies. Andrea also reflects on the importance of authenticity in leadership and the culture shifts required to move with speed at scale.Key takeawaysPerformance enables care. Delivering results creates the resources to reinvest in solving real consumer problemsChallenger brands can expose blind spots. Kimberly-Clark’s response in diapers reshaped its innovation strategyAuthenticity builds trust. Leading with emotion has become Andrea’s superpower as an executiveDanone’s Arthur Sylvestre on Embracing Digital Commerce to Fuel Growth in Perishables
24:50|In this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Rachel Tipograph and Sarah Hofstetter speak with Arthur Sylvestre, VP of Digital Commerce at Danone North America. Arthur shares how the company’s mission and strategic renewal have positioned it for outsized growth, especially in a category as complex as perishables.He reflects on Danone’s culture of digital enthusiasm, its collective approach to retail media, and the mindset needed to build long-term, sustainable growth. Arthur also outlines how digital teams can elevate their impact by influencing both online and offline sales and keeping organizations focused on what drives meaningful results.Key takeawaysPerishables can succeed in digital. Danone’s double-digit eCommerce growth shows the opportunity is realRetail media should be approached as a collective effort across sales, media, and brand teamsThe most effective teams stay focused on the fundamentals, not the noise