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BRAINHACKING: Ethical and legal challenges posed by new neurotechnologies.

Season 1, Ep. 12

In this podcast Ken Barrett is in conversation with Marcello Ienca, professor of the ethics of articicial intelligence. We discuss the ethical challenges of new neurotechnologices, including brain-computer interfaces and other wearable and implanted devices. Are our brains about to be at risk of being ‘hacked’ or ‘jacked’ and what steps should be taken to safeguard us? Marcello outlines and unpacks four human rights he believes should be protected: the right to cognitive liberty, mental privacy, mental integrity and psychological continuity. 

 

Participants: 

Marcello Ienca, Professor of Ethics of Artificial Intelligence and Neuroscience.

Deputy Director, Institute for Ethics and History of Medicine, Technische Universität München. 

Group Leader - Intelligent Systems Ethics Group - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne.

https://www.professoren.tum.de/en/ienca-marcello

Ken Barrett, visual artist, writer and retired clinical neuropsychiatrist.

http://www.kenbarrettstudio.co.uk


An interesting article by Marcello Ienca on this subject: https://www.scientificamerican.com/author/marcello-ienca/

 

Music: Prelude to the opera Brainland, composed by Stephen Brown.

Brainland the opera website: https://www.brainlandtheopera.co.uk/

Portrait sketch by Ken Barrett

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  • 31. THE VITAL SPARK: The Creative Brain.

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  • 30. OBJECTS WITH SOUL: The strange power of puppets in opera.

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  • 29. YOUR BRAIN ON RELIGION: Exploring the neuroscience of religious experience.

    36:27
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