<a href="https://www.instagram.com/sallymcgeesurf/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sally</a><a href="mailto:no_reply@apple.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> </a>is the founder of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/surfyonder/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yonder</a>, the brilliant surf brand and community with a surf school at its heart, and a particular focus on getting more women in the lineup.&nbsp; “I don’t think people ever ask themselves where there aren’t women in the lineup….it’s a huge conversation that really doesn’t get talked about.”&nbsp;Sally works hard to explore and combat the issues that keep women out of the sea, including the drop off during motherhood, and she’s&nbsp;helping to build a strong and inclusive surf community in the North East where she’s based.&nbsp; Episode highlights <ul><li>The importance of learning how to fall safely.</li></ul>&nbsp;&nbsp;<ul><li>Yonder - not just an inclusive surf school. The whole approach is different. “We’ve created a blueprint for that kind of service.”</li></ul> <ul><li>Giving women the confidence, skills and knowledge to be an integral part of the surf community.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>Exploring why women stop surfing after motherhood, and how to combat this trend - including finding time, loss of confidence, and the urge to want to be good straightaway.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>The differences between the skateboarding and surfing communities.</li></ul> <ul><li>Coming&nbsp;back from two major injuries - a snapped arm and a lisfranc injury.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>Keeping life simple - or trying to!</li></ul> More about Sally: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sallymcgeesurf/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sallymcgeesurf</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/surfyonder/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@surfyonder</a><a href="http://surfyonder.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">surfyonder.com</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/tombingphoto/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tombingphoto</a> Join the Board Women movement: <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boardwomen.co</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a><a href="http://weareboardwomen.substack.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">weareboardwomen.substack.com</a> Host: Caroline KeylockProducer: Selma ChalabiPhotography - Clare KeylockArtwork - Rozi Wan Rimli&nbsp;Music - Brother Brother by Benjamin Caleb Johnson, performed by BENSON

34. Take your space in the lineup - Sally McGee

Having taken up skating in her 40s and continuing to skate in to her 50s, Indigo says of herself “I am the opposite of a typical skateboarding story.”&nbsp; War orphan, skater, academic, campaigner for inclusivity in skateboarding and founder of <a href="https://www.instagram.com/respectisrad/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Respect is Rad</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goodwillinghunting/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indigo</a> brings so much to the skating space.&nbsp; There’s a lot to talk about in this episode, so grab a cuppa and settle in.&nbsp; Episode highlights <ul><li>Falling in a bowl jam.</li></ul> <ul><li>Indigo’s journey in to skate boarding in her 40s - learning with men.</li></ul> <ul><li>Dismantling gates and opening up the world of skate boarding.</li></ul> <ul><li>Staying punk through skateboarding - “I’d rather carry a skateboard than a briefcase”.</li></ul> <ul><li>Bringing the world of skateboarding in to a university setting.</li></ul> <ul><li>The inspiration behind <a href="https://www.instagram.com/respectisrad/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Respect is Rad</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Celebrating progress as older women in skateboarding - staying authentic.</li></ul> More about Indigo: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goodwillinghunting/?hl=en-gb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@goodwillhunting</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/respectisrad/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@respectisrad</a> People and groups mentioned in this episode: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2w0cWW4d0dR6vRAKIgOGao" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esther Sayers</a><a href="http://skateistan.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">skateistan.org</a><a href="https://connect-skaturbanism-festival.com/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Festival Connect</a> Join the Board Women movement: <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boardwomen.co</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a> Host: Caroline KeylockProducer: Selma ChalabiPhotography - Clare KeylockArtwork - Rozi Wan Rimli&nbsp;Music - Brother Brother by Benjamin Caleb Johnson, performed by BENSON

33. Turning on the light - Indigo Willing

The phenomenal <a href="https://www.instagram.com/imaybesurfing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Demi Taylor&nbsp;</a>is founder of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/londonsurffilmfest/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London Surf Film Festival</a>, author of several surfing books and producer of&nbsp;<a href="https://thebigsea.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Big Sea</a> -&nbsp;this years break out film bringing to light the darker side of the production of Neoprene, and therefore, much of the surfing industry. This was a phenomenally interesting conversation, not least because your assumption would be that brands who are so keen to push their green agenda in the surf space would be on board with the shift to environmentally friendly wetsuit solutions on hearing the news that the production of Neoprene is giving a whole community cancer. But, despite the team on the film trying to involve many of the central brands in the industry, many of them have simply ignored its message. There's a lot to get through, so this episode is a bit longer than usual. Episode highlights: <ul><li><a href="https://thebigsea.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Big Sea</a> - the juxtaposition between the stunning visuals and the hard hitting story</li></ul> <ul><li>How the film came about</li></ul> <ul><li>The hope to bring brands on board</li></ul> <ul><li>“We think we’re activists just because we surf, and we’re not” - overcoming complacency in the surf community</li></ul> <ul><li>Demi’s journey in to surfing and how she and her partner Chris came to write iconic surf travel books </li></ul> <ul><li>Demi’s role as a mid life woman in the industry</li></ul> <ul><li>Starting the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/londonsurffilmfest/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">London Surf Film Festival</a> and&nbsp;the importance of storytelling in driving change</li></ul> <ul><li>Can Caroline find a natural rubber medical cover for her cast? </li></ul> More about Demi: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/imaybesurfing/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@imaybesurfing</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/londonsurffilmfest/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@londonsurffilmfest</a><a href="http://thebigsea.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thebigsea.org</a> Mentions in this episode: <a href="https://www.wearelookingsideways.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Looking Sideways</a> with Matt Barr Join the Board Women movement: <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boardwomen.co</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a> Host: Caroline KeylockProducer: Selma ChalabiPhotography - Clare KeylockArtwork - Rozi Wan Rimli&nbsp;Music - Brother Brother by Benjamin Caleb Johnson, performed by BENSON

32. An inconvenient truth - Demi Taylor

Having achieved all she wanted to in her snowboarding career (she’d won the X Games 3 times), <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jennyjonessnow/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jenny Jones</a> suddenly had the opportunity to take part in the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi. At the age of 33, she became the first UK athlete to win an Olympic medal at a snow event - a bronze in the women’s slopestyle. She is now a mum (having had her baby Wilbur at the age of 43), a TV presenter, podcaster, surfer and skater, and snowboarding coach.&nbsp; Episode highlights <ul><li>Falling - not on a board, but holding a baby!</li></ul> <ul><li>The impact of the financial crash on snow sports and sponsorship.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>Being at one's peak and unexpectedly reaching for a new peak - the call from Team GB about slopestyle being in the 2014 Winter Olympics.</li></ul> <ul><li>Recovering from concussion and still making it to the Olympics at the age of 33…and smashing it.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>Sharing the joy of being on a snow and surf board with ‘bump’.</li></ul> <ul><li>The bliss of becoming a mum at 43, despite being called geriatric.</li></ul> <ul><li>Jenny’s surf journey and moving to Devon to do more surfing.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>Setting up snowboarding workshops and retreats that focus on mindset as well as board skills.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>It’s time to get back on a skateboard and finally get that 'rock to fakie’.</li></ul> More about Jenny: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jennyjonessnow/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jennyjonessnow</a><a href="https://www.workshopbyjennyjones.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">workshopbyjennyjones.com</a><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0AUekSaNGUHc003CsXb5Pp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ThankUSnowboarding podcast - episode with Jenny Jones</a> Join the Board Women movement: <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boardwomen.co</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a> Host: Caroline KeylockProducer: Selma ChalabiPhotography - Clare KeylockArtwork - Rozi Wan Rimli&nbsp;Music - Brother Brother by Benjamin Caleb Johnson, performed by BENSON

31. Life after the Olympics - Jenny Jones

Learning to skate with your mum tends to be something that applies when you’re a kid, but in the case of Britt and Kaz it happened when they were 30 and 56. Two years have now gone by and they are both hooked. They now have a considerable following on instagram as <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2girlssk8/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@2girlssk8</a>&nbsp; Britt says of her mum Kaz: “I got my first kick flip because of my mum, and I still tell&nbsp;myself&nbsp;something she tells me. The phrase she said to me was ‘knees up buttercup’ because I just wasn’t bringing my knees up. So now in my head I’ve just got ‘knees up buttercup, knees up buttercup’.” The conversation is full of energy and a commitment to help each other learn, which is really magical and beautiful to listen in on. &nbsp; Episode highlights: <ul><li>Getting in to skating together as adults and as a mum and daughter duo.</li></ul> <ul><li>Overcoming fear of judgment.</li></ul> <ul><li>Skating and mental health: Kaz on the life saving effect of skating on her levels of anxiety.</li></ul> <ul><li>Learning together - the ups and downs.</li></ul> Groups mentioned in the podcast: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/foenix.cruisers/reel/DCQv5ysSIvV/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Foenix Cruisers</a> Join the Board Women movement: <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boardwomen.co</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a> Host: Caroline KeylockProducer: Selma ChalabiPhotography: Clare KeylockArtwork: Rozi Wan Rimli&nbsp;Music: Brother Brother by Benjamin Caleb Johnson, performed by BENSON

30. Knees Up Buttercup - Brittany Traish and Karyn Bennett

<a href="https://www.instagram.com/yvette__cave/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yvette Curtis</a>&nbsp;is founder of <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wave_wahines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wave Wahines</a>, a club she initially set up for her eldest child to have a safe space to surf. Since its inception eight years ago, it has broadened out to include both girls and women from all communities, as well from the LGBTQIA+ community, and it’s become known for fighting for diversity and inclusion in surfing. Episode highlights: <ul><li>how Yvette<a href="https://www.instagram.com/yvette__cave/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> </a>became an accidental founder</li></ul> <ul><li>how <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wave_wahines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wave Wahines</a> included mums over time, not just girls</li></ul> <ul><li>time for action - why there’s still so much to do for diversity in surfing</li></ul> <ul><li>feeling like an imposter + why it’s an advantage</li></ul> <ul><li>the WSL decision to be in Abu Dhabi</li></ul> More about Yvette: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/yvette__cave/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@yvette_cave</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/wave_wahines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@wave_wahines</a><a href="http://wavewahines.co.uk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wavewahines.co.uk</a> Other guests mentioned in this episode: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/3H30GQ9psJDKdATBrmJtbX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Creating a safe space - Merida Miller</a> Join the Board Women movement: <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boardwomen.co</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a> Host: Caroline KeylockProducer: Selma ChalabiPhotography - Clare KeylockArtwork - Rozi Wan Rimli&nbsp;Music - Brother Brother by Benjamin Caleb Johnson, performed by BENSON

29. It’s time for action - Yvette Curtis

You'll know Lindsey as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/hotmomsofskateboarding/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@hotmomsofskateboarding</a>&nbsp;on instagram. Since launching her account and her skateboarding journey in January 2024, she has built a large following and created quite a stir online. She’s a vocal champion of the the right to joy for women, and she challenges the patriarchal system that can make some women feel like they don’t have a place in the sport. “I want other women to know that their joy is valid. The pursuit of their own joy is not only valid, but it’s crucial to having a full, experiential life”. Lindsey took up skateboarding in her late 40s after a few years of sitting on the sidelines watching her daughter learn and feeling jealous. It was when she saw a video posted by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/auntyskates/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@auntyskates</a> that she realised that the sport could be for her as well. She took a leap of faith by going on a retreat in Costa Rica with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/auntyskates/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@auntyskates</a>, and has never looked back.&nbsp; Episode highlights: <ul><li>The retreat with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/auntyskates/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@auntyskates</a>&nbsp;in Costa Rica - a week of freedom and joy and girlhood.</li></ul> <ul><li>Creating an online presence - finding a community of female skateboarders.</li></ul> <ul><li>Dealing with the patriarchy - showing the authentic life of what it is to be a woman.</li></ul> <ul><li>In a patriarchal system, female joy is not prioritised, but you can go against this ideology and live a fully explosive, joyful life.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>Dealing with trolls - pushing back.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>Getting through a very intense traumatic period - coming through and finding beauty in the darkness.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>Finding the balance between parenting and feeding your own joy.</li></ul> More about Lindsey: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/hotmomsofskateboarding/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@hotmomsofskateboarding</a> Other guests mentioned in this episode: <a href="https://shows.acast.com/board-women/episodes/oorbee-roy-aka-aunty-skates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I feel like I’m flying - Oorbee Roy aka Aunty Skates</a> <a href="https://shows.acast.com/65490b157eaf1300120da988/episodes/6553a6208c73ee00136175e7?" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Feel the fear and drop in anyway - Esther Sayers</a> Join the Board Women movement: <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boardwomen.co</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a> Host: Caroline KeylockProducer: Selma ChalabiPhotography - Clare KeylockArtwork - Rozi Wan Rimli&nbsp;Music - Brother Brother by Benjamin Caleb Johnson, performed by BENSON

28. Your joy matters - Lindsey Tessada 

Amy, aka <a href="https://www.instagram.com/oldlady_skater/?hl=en-gb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@oldlady_skater</a>, is an inspiration to us all. Having skated as a child, and even represented Vans, she stopped whilst still at school, and only took it up again at the age of 42 after her kids were grown up (her kids weren't in to skateboarding).&nbsp; Now she is 60 and retired, she spends much of her time in the skate park. She’s an advocate for pushing a little, taking a few risks, and seeing where it might get you. “Once you have it in your mind that you know you can do it, doing it is easier. It’s when you&nbsp;don’t think you can do it that you have a problem.” Episode highlights <ul><li>Trying to master backside disasters and falling a lot.</li></ul> <ul><li>&nbsp;Getting in to skateboarding as a child - "my parents got divorced and it was a good distraction".</li></ul> <ul><li>Trying out for Vans and getting in to the team.</li></ul> <ul><li>Having children early and focussing on being a mum.</li></ul> <ul><li>Getting back in to skateboarding at the age of 42, and never looking back.&nbsp;</li></ul> <ul><li>Now 60, retired, and at the skate park all the time, often with friends of all ages.</li></ul> <ul><li>Loving the skate parks you used to hate.</li></ul> <ul><li>Finding a following on instagram as @oldlady_skater.</li></ul> <ul><li>Being diagnosed with ADHD and why skateboarding is good for an ADHD brain - “you have to be present and skateboarding forces you in to that presence".</li></ul> <ul><li>Amy's advice: Take a few risks. Put your pads on and try hard things.</li></ul> More about Amy Bradshaw: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/oldlady_skater/?hl=en-gb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@oldlady_skater</a> Join the Board Women movement: <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boardwomen.co</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a> Host: Caroline KeylockProducer: Selma ChalabiPhotography - Clare KeylockArtwork - Rozi Wan Rimli&nbsp;Music - Brother Brother by Benjamin Caleb Johnson, performed by BENSON

27. Old Lady Skater - Amy Bradshaw

As Chief Marketing Officer of <a href="https://www.instagram.com/finisterre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Finisterre</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bronwenfb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bronwen Foster-Butler</a> is passionate about how women are represented in the brand. “Is the woman leading or is she following? Is she on a big wave or is she on a smaller wave? It’s being aware of biases that we’ve internalised around how women are represented, and trying to challenge them.”&nbsp;&nbsp;Episode highlights: <ul><li>Surfing dressed as a carrot at the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/finisterre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Finisterre </a>summer party.</li></ul> <ul><li>Bronwen’s journey into surfing in her late 30s.</li></ul> <ul><li>Growing up on a ski mountain and learning at the age of 2.</li></ul> <ul><li>Being one of the only female snowboarders, and becoming a coach.</li></ul> <ul><li>Finding a love of the sea later in life</li></ul> <ul><li>Why women are becoming strong and how<a href="https://www.instagram.com/finisterre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Finisterre</a> shoots for the female gaze</li></ul> More about Bronwen: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bronwenfb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bronwenfb</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/finisterre/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@finisterre</a><a href="http://finisterre.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">finisterre.com</a> Join the Board Women movement: <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boardwomen.co</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a> Host: Caroline KeylockProducer: Selma ChalabiPhotography - Clare KeylockArtwork - Rozi Wan Rimli&nbsp;Music - Brother Brother by Benjamin Caleb Johnson, performed by BENSON

26. Shooting for the female gaze - Bronwen Foster-Butler

Women, confidence and board sports. 

Explore the world of women and confidence, through the lens of board sports - skate, surf and snow. <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Board Women</a> founder Caroline Keylock talks to women and gender minorities in their 30’s, 40’s, 50’s and beyond, who are pushing the boundaries of what their bodies can achieve. She also has insightful conversations with confidence coaches, and experts in peri-menopause and menopause, to help you ride through this time of life. This is about finding time for you. It's about reconnecting with joy, thrill and adventure. So come on board and join the <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Board Women</a> movement. <a href="www.boardwomen.co" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.boardwomen.co</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a> Join the Board Women movement: <a href="https://www.boardwomen.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">boardwomen.co</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/boardwomen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boardwomen</a> Host - Caroline KeylockProducer - Selma ChalabiPhotography - Clare KeylockArtwork - Rozi Wan Rimli&nbsp;Music - Music - Brother Brother by Benjamin Caleb Johnson, performed by BENSON

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