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6. Will Gertler - From subsistence to sushi-grade: empowering East African artisanal fishers.
44:33||Season 2, Ep. 6๐๏ธ ๐๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฒ #๐ฒ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐น๐๐ฒ ๐๐๐ถ๐น๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐ข๐๐ ๐ก๐ผ๐! ๐๐๐๐ฟ๐ผ๐บ ๐๐๐ฏ๐๐ถ๐๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ ๐๐๐๐ต๐ถ-๐ด๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฒ: ๐ฒ๐บ๐ฝ๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐๐ฎ๐๐ ๐๐ณ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ป ๐ณ๐ถ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐.I really loved our last conversation with Will Gertler, CEO of Kumbatia Seafood. Will and his team are striving to demonstrate that market-based conservation solutions can actually work in the field.ย In Blue Builders' last episode, Will explains in detail how he built Kumbatia Seafood training artisanal fishers and connecting them to international premium markets to boost their revenue while improving the sustainability of their fishing practices.๐ช๐ฒ ๐ฑ๐ถ๐๐ฐ๐๐๐๐ฒ๐ฑ:โ Why traditional conservation models can sometimes fail fishing communities and how financial incentives can change the gameโ The challenge of building an entire value chain from scratch in Kenyan remote coastal areas: from off-grid cold storage to FDA-certified processingโ Finding the subtle balance between profitability and impact measurement as an impact ventureโ What is at stake in the Western Indian Ocean in terms of industrial fishing๐ฃ๏ธ "๐๐ง ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ง๐ช๐ด๐ฉ ๐ธ๐ช๐ต๐ฉ ๐๐ถ๐ฎ๐ฃ๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ข, ๐ธ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ช๐ญ๐ญ ๐ข๐ด๐ฌ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ง๐ช๐ด๐ฉ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ด๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ด๐ช๐ฃ๐ญ๐บ, ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ต ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ'๐ญ๐ญ ๐ฃ๐ฆ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ธ๐ข๐ณ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ง๐ช๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ช๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐บ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ดo."With 60% of coastal Kenya living in poverty, marine conservation often comes at the expense of economic livelihoods. But what if access to premium markets could drive both income growth AND marine ecosystem recovery?#BlueBuilders #MarketBasedConservation #SustainableSeafood #ArtisanalFisheries #BlueEconomy #ImpactEntrepreneurship #MarineConservation #EastAfrica #SocialEnterprise #OceanSolutions #CommunityEmpowerment
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5. Marine Conservation Institute - Are marine protected areas really effective?
42:45||Season 2, Ep. 5๐๏ธ ๐๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฒ #๐ฑ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐น๐๐ฒ ๐๐๐ถ๐น๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐ข๐๐ ๐ก๐ผ๐! ๐ฑ๐At UNOC3 back in June, momentum toward protecting marine ecosystems gained ground with global marine protected area coverage rising from 8% to 10% as countries like Tanzania, Colombia, or French Polynesia announced new MPAs. But as these numbers grow, a fundamental question emerges: how effective are Marine Protected Areas in actually protecting our oceans?We're addressing this concern head-on with this 5th episode of Blue Builders in which we speak with Lance Morgan (President) and Sarah O. Hameed (Director of Blue Parks) from the Marine Conservation Institute who have been advocates for effective marine protection from the early days. ๐ช๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ฎ๐ฏ๐น๐ ๐ฑ๐ถ๐๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ผ:โ The gap between political announcements and ocean reality - why governments love MPAs that don't actually protectโ Why reaching 30% ocean protection by 2030 requires authentic community-led engagementโ The Cabo Pulmo transformation - how community leadership turned a depleted ecosystem into one with 400% biomass increase โ My 7-year-old burning question: did Lance really see the Titanic during his submarine missions in the deep? Lanceย and Sarah'sย 30 years of experienceย shows that when MPAs are designed with local leadership, they don't just preserve biodiversity - they enhance fishing opportunities outside park boundaries and create sustainable livelihoods. Marine Conservation Institute is recognized worldwide for itsย ๐๐น๐๐ฒ ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ธ๐ ๐๐๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฑ๐ย ย (recognizing the MPAs worldwide that truly work) and for theirย ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ ๐ฃ๐ฟ๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป ๐๐๐น๐ฎ๐ย a fantastic tool tracking MPA effectiveness globally. https://mpatlas.org/mpaguide/๐ฃ๏ธ โ๐๐ฆ ๐ฉ๐ข๐ท๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ด๐ต๐ฐ๐ฑ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฌ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ฎ๐ข๐ณ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฆ๐ค๐ต๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ด ๐ด๐ฐ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ญ๐บ ๐ข๐ด ๐ข ๐ธ๐ข๐บ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต ๐ง๐ช๐ด๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ, ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ต ๐ข๐ญ๐ด๐ฐ ๐ข๐ด ๐ข ๐ธ๐ข๐บ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ฉ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฆ ๐ง๐ช๐ด๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ.โย #NatureBuilders #BlueBuilders #MarineConservation #OceanProtection #BlueParks #CommunityConservation #30by30 #MarineConservationInstitute #SustainableOceans #ConservationLeadership
4. Brian Tsuyoshi Takeda - Beyond Blue Carbon: the true value of ocean restoration
45:46||Season 2, Ep. 4๐ ๐ช๐ฒ'๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฒ๐ ๐ฐ๐ถ๐๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐๐ผ ๐ฏ๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ฑ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐จ๐ก๐ข๐๐ฏ โ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐จ๐ก ๐ข๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ป ๐๐ผ๐ป๐ณ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ถ๐ ๐ธ๐ถ๐ฐ๐ธ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ผ๐ณ๐ณ ๐ถ๐ป ๐ฎ ๐ณ๐ฒ๐ ๐ฑ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ถ๐ป ๐ก๐ถ๐ฐ๐ฒ! ๐As global attention turns to the health of our oceans and the urgent need for marine restoration, at Nature Builders Podcasts weโre continuing to spotlight the innovators driving change.๐๏ธ ๐๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฒ #๐ฐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐น๐๐ฒ ๐๐๐ถ๐น๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐ข๐๐ ๐ก๐ผ๐! ๐ฑ๐In this new episode of the Blue Builders Podcast, we sit down with Brian Tsuyoshi Takeda, founder of Urchinomics, CEO at Restorae, and Secretary of the Japan Blue Economy Association to explore kelp forests and how Japan is leading the way with state-backed blue carbon credit systems.๐ฃ๏ธ โ๐๐ฆ ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ฏ'๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฃ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ต ๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ฑ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ด๐ต๐ด ๐ต๐ฐ๐ฐ ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ค๐ฉ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ค๐ข๐ถ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ช๐ต ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ฆ๐ด๐ฏ'๐ต ๐ฉ๐ข๐ท๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ข๐ถ๐ต๐ช๐ง๐ถ๐ญ, ๐ค๐ฐ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ง๐ถ๐ญ ๐ช๐ฎ๐ข๐จ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ค๐ฐ๐ณ๐ข๐ญ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ง๐ด... ๐ช๐ต'๐ด ๐ฃ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ธ๐ฏ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ณ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ด๐ญ๐ช๐ฎ๐บ, ๐ด๐ฐ ๐ช๐ต ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ฆ๐ด๐ฏ'๐ต ๐ช๐ฏ๐ด๐ฑ๐ช๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐น๐ค๐ช๐ต๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต. ๐๐ถ๐ต ๐ช๐ต'๐ด ๐ข๐ค๐ต๐ถ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐บ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ณ๐ถ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ ๐ค๐ฐ๐ข๐ด๐ต๐ข๐ญ ๐ฆ๐ค๐ฐ๐ด๐บ๐ด๐ต๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ด.โ๐ช๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ฎ๐ฏ๐น๐ ๐ฑ๐ถ๐๐ฐ๐๐๐๐ฒ๐ฑ:โ What exactly kelp is and why it plays such a big role in marine biodiversityโ Why we should stop talking about blue carbon credits and consider natural capital insteadโ How seaweeds are moving from an emerging to a mature solution in carbon marketsโ How come blue natural capital credits are trading at $600 a ton (vs $30 for terrestrial)โ Whatโs next for the market as a whole with K-credits and the EU restoration law๐ฉ Always happy to hear your thoughts โ feedback and questions welcome.#UNOC3 #BlueCarbon #MarineRestoration #CarbonCredits #JapanBlueEconomy #SeaweedRestoration #BlueEconomy #OceanConservation #ClimateAction #Sustainability #BlueBuilders #MarineConservation #CarbonMarkets #Podcast
3. Markus Knigge - Blue Action Fund from global pledges to local actions
47:15||Season 2, Ep. 3๐๐ ๐In this new episode of the Blue Builders Podcast, I sit down with Markus Knigge, who shares his insights from years of working in conservation funding and project implementation across multiple continents.This conversation explores the delicate balance between challenges and hope in environmental conservation work - from witnessing climate change impacts firsthand to seeing the transformative power of well-directed funding and strong partnerships.We notably discussed:โ How global ocean commitments translate to real action on the groundโ Why funding only works with the right local partners to drive changeโ What actually makes Marine Protected Areas effective, not just lines on a mapโ Key expectations for the upcoming UN Ocean Conference in Franceโ Honest assessment of which local conservation successes can truly scaleMarkus's perspective on viewing conservation like a chess board - where every organization is just one piece in a larger strategy - offers a compelling framework for
2. Alex de Caters - insect proteins in 2025: an effective tool for marine conservation?
41:09||Season 2, Ep. 2๐ ๐๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฒ #๐ฎ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐น๐๐ฒ ๐๐๐ถ๐น๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐ข๐๐ ๐ก๐ผ๐! ๐๐โ๐๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ช๐ฏ๐ด๐ฆ๐ค๐ต ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฆ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐ณ๐บ ๐ช๐ด ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ด๐ต๐ข๐บ ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฏ๐ข๐ฎ๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐จ๐ข๐ฎ๐ฆ ๐ช๐ด ๐ค๐ฐ๐ด๐ต ๐ฆ๐ง๐ง๐ช๐ค๐ช๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ค๐บโIn this new episode of the Blue Builders by Nature Builders Podcasts, I sit down with Alex de Caters, co-founder of Entobel, alongside Gaetan Crielaard. Based in Vietnam, Entobel is developing insect protein as a sustainable alternative for aquaculture feed.๐ง๐ต๐ถ๐ ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป ๐ฐ๐ผ๐บ๐ฒ๐ ๐ฎ๐ ๐ฎ ๐๐ถ๐บ๐ฒ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐๐ฟ๐ผ๐ป๐ด ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฏ๐๐น๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐๐ผ๐ฟ, with several major players facing financial difficulties and some questioning the viability of insect protein altogether. Against that backdrop, we took a step back to explore the bigger picture, the challenges of the aquaculture industry and Entobelโs long game.๐ช๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ฎ๐ฏ๐นy ๐ฑ๐ถ๐๐ฐ๐๐๐๐ฒ๐ฑ:ย โ The link between aquaculture, fishmeal, and marine biodiversity lossโ How insects like the black soldier fly can reduce pressure on wild fish stocksโ The complexity of scaling a bioconversion company from lab to industryโ The ups and downs of building Entobel from scratch in Vietnamโ Why cost efficiency is now make-or-break for the insect protein sectorAlexโs journey is one of resilience, iteration, and long-term vision, a great example of what it means to be a Blue Builder.
1. Tom Hickey - Advancing Coastal Wetlands Conservation
38:50||Season 2, Ep. 1In this first episode of Blue Builders, we sit down with Tom Hickey, Project Director at The Pew Charitable Trusts, to explore the vital role of coastal wetlands in ocean conservation and climate action.Tom shares his personal journey โ from summers spent fishing off the coast of Cornwall to leading global efforts to integrate mangroves, seagrasses, and salt marshes into national climate strategies. We dive into how these ecosystems serve as powerful tools for both carbon mitigation and community resilience, and how countries can include them in their climate pledges through the Paris Agreement framework.Throughout the conversation, we explore:Why blue carbon is a useful policy tool, but not the whole storyHow local partnerships, community engagement, and language shape effective conservationWhat it takes to map, manage, and restore ecosystems across very different national contextsThe challenge of scaling conservation solutions without losing local nuanceThis episode is a deep dive into the complexity โ and promise โ of coastal conservation. Itโs for anyone interested in how nature-based solutions are designed, funded, and implemented at scale.
