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Identifying and Overcoming Trauma with Dr. Alisha Moreland-Capuia
Dr. Alisha Moreland-Capuia knew her calling at just eight years old - she wanted to do something to help take-away, or reduce, suffering in this world. Growing up as a black girl in Oregon, a State with deeply racist roots, Dr. Alisha’s struggle shaped the woman she is today and drives the incredibly important work that she does.
It was her calling of tackling suffering that pushed Dr. Alisha to pursue higher education. She received a BS in Biological Sciences with a minor in Urban Studies from Stanford University before gaining her doctorate of medicine from the George Washington University School of Medicine. She is currently the director of trauma-informed treatment, consultation, and outreach at McClean Hospital and an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School. Her work centers around the intersection of trauma, addiction, and mental health as well as how systems identify, manage, and distance themselves from trauma. Dr. Alisha has written two books, The Trauma of Racism and Training for Change, and published a myriad of scientific articles on her work.
In this episode, Dr. Alisha talks about her childhood and what it was like to be a young black girl finding her way in the world. We also discuss what led her down the path of psychiatry and trauma, what her work has revealed about human suffering, particularly in black communities, and why it’s essential that changes be made to alleviate trauma and suffering in this world.
Tune in to Episode 4 of Black Girl Back Talk and let’s talk openly and honestly about trauma with Dr. Alisha.
Some Questions I Ask:
- What about racial bias as a girl? Did you have any experience of that? (12:51)
- What took you into college? (21:10)
- Do you have opportunities to talk to children about trauma? (48:07)
- Can you please talk a little bit more about how healing from trauma can occur? (54:17)
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
- About what life was like for Dr. Alisha growing up as a black girl (6:44)
- About what drew Dr. Alisha to psychiatry (24:24)
- What three things Dr. Alisha believes underscore trauma (28:34)
- Why the environment that you procreate in is just as important for your baby as the genes they inherit (37:25)
- Why it’s important for systems in society to change in parallel (50:47)
- Looking back, what Dr. Alisha would say to the younger version of herself (59:55)
- About Dr. Alisha’s books, Training for Change and The Trauma of Racism (1:02:17)
Resources:
Book Training for Change
Book The Trauma of Racism
Dr. Alisha Moreland-Capuia’s McClean Hospital Profile and PubMed Search
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