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Big Fat Negative: TTC, fertility, infertility and IVF
Martha de Lacey: 'You give yourself this story of why things happened'
Season 8, Ep. 7
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The sourdough baker Martha de Lacey joins us this week: she has run the full gamut of infertility experiences, from going solo to recurrent miscarriage to secondary infertility. "It's so difficult when you give yourself this story of why things happened and the meaning behind it," she says. "Actually it's just nonsense. It's all just luck."
Emma Whitney from The Evewell also joins us to explain why some embryos survive and others don't.
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