Beyond DEI

In this episode, we talk with Laura Morgan Roberts, organizational psychologist and author, about her article, 'DEI Hires Don’t Lower the Bar. They Raise It.' Together, we take on the myth that marginalized groups "cheat" the hiring process, and reveal why it's homogeneity—not diversity—that truly lowers the bar. Roberts breaks down how we can flip the narrative, turning the "DEI hire" label into a badge of honor, while sharing the “four freedoms” we need to thrive at work.

Join host Kerrien Suarez and guest Maggie Potapchuk as they explore the heart and future of Racial Equity Tools (RET) with Equity In The Center (EIC)! Maggie shares the vision behind RET, the largest free online library of racial equity resources, and why EIC is the perfect partner. They discuss the progress made despite conservative pushback, how building relationships and connecting with values are critical in moving beyond transactional DEI initiatives, and the need for philanthropy to take action.

Building a Race Equity Culture™ isn’t just about individual change—it's about coming together for collective action and support. Host Kerrien Suarez sits down with Dr. Raquel Gutierrez, Founder and CEO of Blue Agave Partners, and Ericka Hines, JD, Principal of Every Level Leadership, to chat about how doing this work as a community brings in diverse perspectives and shared experiences. Together, they explore how this approach leads to more holistic and lasting change.

Join Kerrien Suarez, President and CEO of Equity In The Center, on the Beyond DEI* podcast to explore how to move from transactional checkbox diversity initiatives to a proactive, transformative approach that dismantles structural racism and white dominant culture. Hear from practitioners and leaders who are actively building a Race Equity Culture™ in their organizations. If you're ready to move from transaction to transformation, this podcast is for you.