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In episode 22 of the new Awaken The Possibilities Podcast, Host Terry Wildemann interviews Cheryl Meyer on "Own You Own Health: From Illness to Wellness”. Awaken the Possibilities Podcast features successful entrepreneurs and intuitive leaders who offer insights on how to attract success in business and life. 

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About Cheryl Meyer

I was a business owner for 25 years and wasn't listening to the signals that my body was sending me about my health.

I got autoimmune disease and everything in my body hurt. My MD couldn't find anything wrong with me, threw steroids at me, and suggested I seek therapy.

I researched, learned to lower my stress and eliminated hundreds of toxins from my life. Found A Functional MD, who diagnosed my disease, approached it from a totally different perspective and I returned to relative health.

Website URL:: https://cherylmhealthmuse.com

Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/cherylmhealthmuse/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/feelinggoodlivinglowtoxin/ https://www.facebook.com/It-Feels-Good-To-Feel-Good-reverse-inflammation-1277191688990457/

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylmeyer/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/cherylmhealthmu

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cherylmhealthmuse/

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/cherylmhealthmuse/pins/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6xGaVEz-DA4rxC9npcpFOg?view_as=subscriber

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About Terry Wildemann:

Terry Wildemann is the owner of Intuitive Leadership® and a Business and Resilience Accelerator, Speaker and Certified Executive Coach.

Terry's specialty is working with tired, unhealthy, close-to-burned-out entrepreneurs and professionals and helps them leap off the stress hamster wheel. They evolve into unstoppable stress resilient intuitive leaders and practical business mystics. Terry’s timely message guides clients and students to integrate intuition, stress resilience, positive communications and leadership with grounded business systems to achieve success by positively serving and influencing others. Her leadership experience includes owning a manufacturing company, image consulting company, leadership and holistic education center.

Website URL:: www.IntuitiveLeadership.com

Facebook Page: www.Facebook.com/intuitiveleader

Facebook Group: www.Facebook.com/groups/AwakenThePossibilities

Linkedin: www.LInkedin.com/in/TerryWildemann

Twitter: www.twitter.com/terrywildemann www.twitter.com/leaderintuition

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Terry Wildemann: Welcome everyone to this episode of awaken the possibilities Podcast. I'm your host, Terry will demand of intuitive leadership.

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Terry Wildemann: And I love working with burned out and stressed out entrepreneurs who are ready to leap off distress hamster wheel of life and leap into calm ease and flow.

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Terry Wildemann: And the results are unstoppable resilient intuitive leaders and practical business mystics and as you know

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Terry Wildemann: As you know, the guests that I bring on this show all filled that they all help every single one of you who are listening.

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Terry Wildemann: To evolve into that unstoppable leader into that practical business mystic because this information is needed. I have such great guests and today.

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Terry Wildemann: I've got a wonderful friend who is also a mystic who has so much to share about being resilient dealing with catastrophic loss and so much more.

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Terry Wildemann: Allow me to introduce you to the amazing Christine powers. She is a world class soprano, who I've seen break glasses, who was

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Terry Wildemann: What was dumb and grace that amplifies the amplifiers through eclectic sublime experiences. She empowers servant leaders to inhabit their power.

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Terry Wildemann: And presence wider and deeper, thereby magically creating bigger and bigger ripples that of uplift us all a former marketing PR communications and fundraising executive

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Terry Wildemann: Christine Is founder of the philosopher's camp where she offers a refuge for people on sacred land in the Adirondack Mountains. Excuse me.

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Terry Wildemann: Sorry about that today. Christine speaks on purpose and power science and mysticism of sound and thriving after catastrophic loss.

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Terry Wildemann: She is a master energy worker and intuitive serving through her singing attunement workshops retreats and adventure camps and welcome welcome welcome Miss Christine to awaken the possibilities.

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Christine Powers: You are you

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Christine Powers: I know I i was giggling a little bit and I didn't want to make noise during your intro. So, I am delighted to be here. It is so good. I think this is the theme of our show is just really let's let it all hang out.

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Christine Powers: This is like take 20

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Terry Wildemann: This never happened at this

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Terry Wildemann: Level, what

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Terry Wildemann: Was really quite funny anyway.

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Terry Wildemann: Share your topic.

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Terry Wildemann: Because nobody can say it the way you do.

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Christine Powers: Yeah you and I've been talking

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Christine Powers: About catastrophic loss and resiliency and thriving after catastrophic loss. There's so much ground that we can cover here.

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Christine Powers: That is pertinent to right now but pertinent to all time, you know, all time.

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Christine Powers: Because being human and living on set. We're going to have these these times of loss.

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Terry Wildemann: Yes, yes, yes. And

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Terry Wildemann: What I know about the human condition in the human spirit is that when we do have catastrophic loss when there are really big challenges in front of us.

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Terry Wildemann: We truly do elevate ourselves elevate one another and shift into some amazing, amazing situations that propels us forward and there is potential and opportunity, even in catastrophic loss. So can you talk a

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Terry Wildemann: Little bit about that because to me, I don't see loss. I feel badly for the losses that have occurred, but I also see so much opportunity on so many levels.

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Christine Powers: Yeah, so I have experienced catastrophic loss in my own life going back almost four years, my family lost everything that we owned

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Christine Powers: Including our two businesses and all of our every material possession in a fire that was rather historic and I look back on that now as being one of the greatest gifts of my life. But at the time, you know,

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Christine Powers: things that happen. Of that nature are really strangely wrapped gifts.

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Christine Powers: And we don't always recognize them were, first of all, we're in shock. And then we can't escape the grief process and all those things that will come with it.

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Christine Powers: But one of the things that is so viscerally imprinted is that I came to a point where I was held by profound grace and when as an intuitive. When I scanned the horizon right energetically. It was so full of possibility because life had broken the rules, right.

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Christine Powers: And I no longer felt obligated to play by the rules and this box had just fallen away and everything had been stripped away most of, I mean, when you don't have anything. There's a great lightness about you.

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Christine Powers: And

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Christine Powers: I realized over time that I stayed there in that space for a few months, because I just wanted to be there in the field of potential reality.

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Christine Powers: And I allow things to begin to coalesce as they wanted to be created and I worked really hard to keep my mind out of it from all the things that I thought should be coming down the path. And so by being really still and just following

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Christine Powers: What wanted to be and going decision by decision I built a whole new life and we have that available to us, particularly at those times because our awareness is incredibly heightened

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Christine Powers: And whether we know it or not, we're always held in grace. We're always held in grace so so to me.

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Christine Powers: times of great challenge and difficulty are really this the same side of the coin is times of great potential and opportunity.

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Christine Powers: And it takes a lot of it takes a village takes a community to support us to be able to be in that space. And I think it takes a lot of spiritual maturity and wisdom to kind of be in that space and and and not to say that I was there all the time.

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Christine Powers: But that was my predominant place that I was after the fire.

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Terry Wildemann: And I remember when that fire happened and how catastrophic. It was I just couldn't imagine. And it's interesting because when I lost my backpack. In March, where I lost my identity.

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Terry Wildemann: Because everything is stolen.

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Terry Wildemann: I kept thinking of you because unlike I didn't lose the house I lose my belongings. I lost the backpack, you know,

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Terry Wildemann: But the thing was my identity was in that backpack my computer was in that backpack things that I you know that we consider important or in that backpack. So just that small piece.

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Terry Wildemann: In many ways, was catastrophic because it happened during the week where it was the week from hell. I'll just leave it at that, some really, really intense things happen and it helped me understand what being invisible. It's like, because

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Terry Wildemann: Your identification. When you lose your credit card or you lose everything. YOU HAVE NO ID.

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Terry Wildemann: You become invisible.

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Terry Wildemann: And that taught me a lot, but you what happened to you is what kept me grounded because I realized that this was just a. This was a blip on the radar screen, no matter how much

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Terry Wildemann: You know how much of a pain in the neck. It was and I felt violated, I really did because it was still on at the airport.

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Terry Wildemann: But it wasn't a house. It wasn't my belongings. It wasn't the things that meant a lot to me it would mean there were things in there. My, my grandmother's drori was in there which I can't replace because it's from

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Terry Wildemann: Cuba.

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Terry Wildemann: You know, but still, it's nothing in comparison to what you went through you lost your home.

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Terry Wildemann: You lost your complete footing and that is that's what I think we need to remember when big things when quote unquote big things happen to us that

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Terry Wildemann: Other people have gone through much bigger things and they still surviving. They're still opportunity. So I'm curious, what are the opportunities. What are the potential. What was the potential reality of what happened.

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Terry Wildemann: Four years down the line when you turn around and look back at that I

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Terry Wildemann: Can you get about can you start

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Terry Wildemann: with the end in mind and share with us all the wonderful potential opportunities that evolved because of that catastrophic event.

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Christine Powers: Yeah. Well, the first thing that that comes to mind is

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Christine Powers: And this is probably really pertinent to practical mystic entrepreneurs, right.

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Christine Powers: We get wrapped up in leadership and what we're supposed to be doing.

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Christine Powers: And one of the things I began to learn. Was that part of why I liked being in that space was because it was much easier for me to always be giving than receiving

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Terry Wildemann: Ah, that's a big one.

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Christine Powers: It's the big one. And when you're stripped away to nothing.

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Christine Powers: It was a huge opportunity for me to be vulnerable and soft and undefended and the the outpouring of love from the community.

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Christine Powers: From little things to big things was was really mature. It was maturity. For me it was growth for me.

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Christine Powers: Because I was not used to being in that place. I was used to being the one who would lead it or facilitate it. So that's a huge opportunity with catastrophic loss. And the first thing that I noticed another thing that I noticed was that I broke away from the should, in the sense that

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Christine Powers: I'll give you an example. We received many donations of physical goods and some of the things that we received really didn't suit our, you know, our choices or lifestyle and we declined them some furniture and different things.

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Christine Powers: What was fascinating to me was that

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Christine Powers: People reacted negatively to that that we were burning them and got offended and I found that fascinating because the giving was was given with an agenda.

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Christine Powers: And I also found that a lot of people were also projecting on to us their own stuff and that came with the territory which was really fascinating.

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Christine Powers: And on the flip side, one of the greatest gifts that we got was from a guy who ran a hot dog cart. Right.

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Christine Powers: Very simple guy didn't even know him, but he heard about our fire and he gave us three dozen hot dogs and three dozen hot dog roles and even now if I did tears me up because

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Christine Powers: It was what he knew to do. And it was so from the heart. And it was so simple but that like pierced me, you know. So I learned a lot about

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Christine Powers: Standing my ground for what was true for me and not my husband and I, we had really deep discussions about this because we didn't want to offend anyone. But we were being bombarded with stuff, which was beautiful. And some of it, we really weren't going to be able to use or need

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Christine Powers: And then the projections were pretty powerful as well to

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Christine Powers: People kind of bringing their own stuff and and you know

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Christine Powers: Their belief on how we should be doing things or what this meant and

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Christine Powers: So that was, those were two really profound lessons.

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Terry Wildemann: Bad. It really is huge. And what I'm also hearing is the word vulnerable you became vulnerable and in order to be able to receive

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Terry Wildemann: That was a step that needed to be taken in there that that vulnerability piece so that you could discern what was actually going on because sometimes when

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Terry Wildemann: You know, those of us who are leaders who are constantly GIVING GIVING GIVING GIVING I know for myself that that's how I am I

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Terry Wildemann: You know, I was always GIVING GIVING GIVING GIVING GIVING and I still give a lot. However, I had to learn to be vulnerable and receive because to you know to what it is that you were saying when you don't receive and you're giving all the time you burn out from that.

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Terry Wildemann: And that is so so big. So one of the things I wanted to mention to you. Was I just read recently that there is, there were these trees.

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Terry Wildemann: Where you need to burn the land and burn the trees so that the pods, the seed pod would burst and regrow are not regrow plant the seeds that are inside these pods are so so hard that only fire will allow the birth of the new seat.

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Terry Wildemann: And I got a sense that image is what came to me when you were sharing your story of the fire because everything got burned to in order for you to be able to allow that seed to explode out

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Terry Wildemann: Does that resonate at all because that image was so intense. When you were shooting.

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Christine Powers: Yeah, it absolutely does.

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Christine Powers: You know it. Yeah, it's really beautiful because I didn't realize how hard my shell had become

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Christine Powers: And and the, you know, looking across the landscape of the four years.

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Christine Powers: This receiving journey has been going on all that time. And that was what first made the crack

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Christine Powers: And

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Christine Powers: So that's probably one of the most profound things that I created on the potential of the horizon.

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Christine Powers: Is a more more soft

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Christine Powers: More real more authentic me

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Christine Powers: Another thing that we shifted. Another lesson is that we have a smaller footprint. We live much more simply.

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Christine Powers: And we travel more which was something that I always wanted to do but we delight. My husband and I had constructed had a big mortgage and big overhead and an office rent and all of these things. And again, the sugars and the expectations of what my life should look like from my upbringing.

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Christine Powers: And I released those last remnants of, you know, being the daughter of a prominent attorney, having gone to Notre Dame, you know, all these things that I was supposed to be in the world and I had been judging myself at some level, this gave me the freedom to just walk out of it 100%

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Christine Powers: So I'm

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Christine Powers: The black sheep of the family. I'm the free spirit of the family and as very inspirational because we live in a mountain on 100 acres, and it's a very simple life, but we have a lot more freedom of our time and travel and what we do.

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Terry Wildemann: And I have to share with folks. She's got a great little spot if you ever, especially in this era of distance social distancing. You want to get away a little spot called New glam sure I will go

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Terry Wildemann: Ahead and

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Terry Wildemann: And my husband and I spend our anniversary there talk about falling into place. It was one of those

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Terry Wildemann: You happen to say in the post that you had that weekend open and my husband and I were just talking about what we're going to do for our anniversary and Bada bing, bada boom and like

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Terry Wildemann: It just happened and it is a beautiful, beautiful place with a woody call that content that you have

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Christine Powers: It's a lotus spell. It's from New

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Christine Powers: Zealand. Yeah, it's in the shape of a lotus flower.

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Terry Wildemann: It is, and it's beautiful and you're out in nature and it's wonderful in your way from everybody. So plug here for new glam sure

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Terry Wildemann: Because it really is just magnificent and you are really out there in nature and it is very high level camping. I will say that very high level camping and absolutely wonderful and the land is beautiful. They're very, very spiritual and I can see how that is really filling your life.

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Christine Powers: Because

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Terry Wildemann: The areas that we explored and that we walked and driving up in the tractor to the top of the mountain, and I still use that picture and a couple of my means.

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Terry Wildemann: It is just so heartwarming and does bring you back to where you need to be. And I'm curious, I have to ask this question, Christine.

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Terry Wildemann: If that fire had not happened. Would you be at the helm of creating new glam. Sure. Number one, and would you have created the philosopher's camp.

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Christine Powers: Probably not. Probably not. Yeah, yeah. The, the time

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Christine Powers: The time after the fire when we

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Christine Powers: What's so coincidental about it and I think further proof of how divine me

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Christine Powers: Frustrated. It was is that we were planning to move to the Adirondacks and there were pieces of both my husband and I, that were questioning

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Christine Powers: What kind of business presence, we should keep an Albany, which is you know 90 miles away.

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Christine Powers: And the fire took away any opportunity like there was no portal like no portal to go back to our prior life in any way.

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Christine Powers: And so, you know, it's interesting. For years I had wanted to do spiritual retreats at destinations and from I judged it as being not enough. Not enough. I don't know where I had that belief but I held it for so long.

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Christine Powers: And now I'm like what took me so long.

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Christine Powers: So, you know, it gives me. I just want

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Christine Powers: But

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Christine Powers: But no.

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Terry Wildemann: hockey sticks, who cares.

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Christine Powers: Yeah, I don't, I don't think I would have because again I gave myself total freedom to create a new life that was joyful and simple and I let go of all all the pressures of what I was supposed to be and the type of career at that point I was supposed to have

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Terry Wildemann: That is such an example powerful example for others who are really having a hard time right now.

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Terry Wildemann: And as you and I both know that there are a lot of folks that are struggling and it's not something that self imposed the struggle is something that was imposed by outside forces, just as the fire was an outside force for you. Just as my

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Terry Wildemann: Having my backpack stone was an outside force for me. Just like all this stuff is outside forces. You do have a sense of loss in in I don't know about you, but I was. It was loss. It was indignation. It was

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Terry Wildemann: anger, frustration, yes, you had to go into vulnerability. Here I am at my age being taken care of by my 97 and 94 year old parents really got to be kidding me.

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Christine Powers: There is an irony to that.

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Terry Wildemann: Because I'm taking care of them all the time. Exactly.

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Terry Wildemann: You're feeding me they're giving me money, they had to pay for my Uber.

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Terry Wildemann: Whoo. It was and it was it was only for 10 days, but it was long enough, let me talk

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Terry Wildemann: You know, anytime there's a loss of any kind, whether it's a car accident.

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Terry Wildemann: You know, losing your education, not being able to graduate is a big thing right now with your colleagues and friends. What a sense of loss that is. Yeah. What a story to tell your kids and what a story to share with others in a future lifetime you know there, somebody said,

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Terry Wildemann: That I read stop saying that there's a silver lining and everything, because that means that there's clouds. What if we look for blue sky.

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Terry Wildemann: Think about that. What if we look at every catastrophic situation as actually blue sky, and when I hear your story. That's what I see, I see blue sky, I see the sun shining so clearly.

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Terry Wildemann: I see the moon on the right side just peeping through as it gets a little bit more towards dusk. I just see such a brightness.

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Terry Wildemann: In that catastrophic episode that you experience. And when I review all the catastrophic episodes in my life and other people's lives. I see the same thing, because only opposite on the other side there so much possibility joy reflection.

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Terry Wildemann: Opportunity and it's up to us whether we take it or not.

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Christine Powers: That and that's so important that you say that because it is a choice. It is an opportunity. And that's why, like

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Christine Powers: anyone listening or watching this would be so wise to align themselves with you with your organization because when we're in the throes of grief and loss. Some head toward the bitterness and the despair and they don't quite ever get out of it.

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Christine Powers: And so resiliency and having a team and having a coach and having a structure is really important because it's an opportunity, it's not it's not the assured outcome. The assured outcome could be 180 degrees. The other direction. Yeah.

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Terry Wildemann: Yes, absolutely. But it is a choice. And you're right, and thank you for sharing that with you what Christine was referring to is the fact that, you know, we do bodycote emotion code tapping

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Terry Wildemann: Also very tuned into intuitively tuned into a lot of different things when we can clear out a lot of the emotions that are created by such incidences

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Terry Wildemann: That really gets stuck in our bodies and become trapped in our bodies and don't allow us to move forward. It's really important whether you're in business, whether you're a leader when

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Terry Wildemann: You're a career professional doesn't matter what you are who you are. It's really important to get rid of that emotional baggage that's caused by such catastrophic trauma.

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Terry Wildemann: Because if we don't clear it out it will sit in our body and it can contribute to illness and disease further down the line, because it does reduce your immune system and it. We know that

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Terry Wildemann: We have studied how certain emotions are connected to certain organs and a lot of the diseases that we have our because it trapped emotions that trap baggage in those areas of our bodies so

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Terry Wildemann: Clearing that out is truly, truly important. So thank you for saying that. And that's referring to

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Christine Powers: Yeah, I'm referring to that and also your business expertise to be rather blunt to

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Christine Powers: And and yeah

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Christine Powers: And and yes and yes, you know, um, you know, in here being

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Christine Powers: It part of nature and being on a mountain, you know, a lot of that can happen here as well.

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Christine Powers: And so there's so many different ways to tend to the gardens of our souls and to tend to our emotional trauma.

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Christine Powers: And it's really important. The work that you do in the end. That's an essential piece to this with with the loss there is work to be done. You know, there are clouds that come by and you know our essential nature is that blue sky.

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Christine Powers: And life happens

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Christine Powers: You know, it really happens. So

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Christine Powers: Part of part of, you know, in part, so here's the other piece that I learned about this, you know, looking for years later.

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Christine Powers: Think about like the great gift that I was given of letting go of so much of the programming of my how I was raised.

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Christine Powers: And I'm not saying that it was bad. I love my parents. I love my family. I'm grateful for my family.

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Christine Powers: But I had to let go of all the beliefs that I took on of how I was supposed to be. And there's a lot of emotional baggage and a lot of trauma underneath all of that.

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Christine Powers: That needs to be cleared and that is an important aspect of leadership. It's an important aspect of right now. You know who we choose to be in this coven era.

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Christine Powers: You know, it's not even about being heart centered. It's being passion centered at this point. And, you know, following the what you're really lit up about because that's going to pave the way to making an impact and being of service.

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Christine Powers: Because it's a whole new paradigm and we are just at the beginning of the whole new paradigm. And so what's going to carry the day is what we choose to really lean into and my suggestion is that we lean into what lights us up. What we're passionate about.

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Christine Powers: Because that will attract people to us and what we do and what we offer

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Terry Wildemann: And speaking of lighting us up.

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Terry Wildemann: One of the things that I know about you is that your voice was affected with this fire.

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Terry Wildemann: And I would love for you to share with the audience how your voice, your singing voice your speaking voice all of it.

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Terry Wildemann: Was truly affected and your journey and finding your voice, because I think that's really important right now. People need to find their voices but there's that they're scared in many ways can you share about that, Christine.

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Christine Powers: Yeah, I think much, you know, if you if you just look back on the last 20 or 30 minutes of our conversation.

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Christine Powers: The result of all the things that I let go of the things that I

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Christine Powers: Just stepped out of an old paradigm enabled me to bring so much more freedom and I've always been a very gifted singer from when I was singing before I could speak but somewhere along the way. I also picked up all the beliefs of

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Christine Powers: You know, not being a full on professional opera singer and the technique is everything and all this baggage that took my love of singing so far away.

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Christine Powers: That I really wasn't singing and so on the other side of the fire I claims my ownership. So two things you talked about the you know the seed in the forest.

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Christine Powers: I identify as fire weed and dragons on

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Christine Powers: So that the you know the the fire weed is is vibrant gorgeous hot pink flower. That is one of the first things to come back to life. And if you see it in a field. It's astonishing after fire and it is only from a fire.

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Christine Powers: And then dragon saw my capacity to sing intuitively and to sing in a healing capacity and to see you sing from total freedom to let go of the technique of being an opera singer and just to tell the stories. I just wanted to become a storyteller. So that's been freed now too, so

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Christine Powers: Yeah I when I go to the top of the mountain and I sing and it reverberates around for miles and and that has also been unleashed.

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Christine Powers: And I sing in ways that again. I had judged.

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Christine Powers: Before as not being enough and I don't really care anymore, it's, it's a gift that I have that should be expressed, however, it wants to be expressed

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Terry Wildemann: And as you can see, for those of you who are watching the video. The tears have just been flowing. I've no idea why they did. They just erupted.

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Terry Wildemann: Yeah, we have a hard time imagining you not singing, you have a beautiful, beautiful voice and

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Terry Wildemann: Thank you for having the courage and

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Terry Wildemann: Stepping into the courage of being and finding your voice again and just really just letting it out there and I know that you have, if I'm not mistaken, don't you have a couple of YouTube videos of you singing

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Christine Powers: There are, yeah. If you go, let's see. Go to Christine powers. If you search the channel.

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Christine Powers: It's pretty interesting. Now I've actually started doing really esoteric stuff which is

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Christine Powers: Again, it's, it's, like, have been classically trained, you know, singing Mozart Puccini and Verity. You know,

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Christine Powers: And then now singing, you know, stamping my feet on the ground and just, you know, the sounds to the mountains and to the earth, it's really different.

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Christine Powers: So yeah, I have a couple of videos up a couple meditations.

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Christine Powers: lullaby voice and Terry. Here's the latest thing i don't i don't even think you know this yet.

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Christine Powers: This is, this is perfect for everybody listening, as you know, a very powerful business past and doing philosophers camp I I'm also looking at what brings me joy and what is of service right now and I am starting to do what I'm calling angelic lullabies

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Christine Powers: Which are actually

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Christine Powers: To help people transition, who are dying. I have a gift to go in intuitively and see the landscape. And then I sing into discord and blockages and all kinds of things and then a lullaby in an intuitive message comes through.

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Christine Powers: And to be honest, I've been able to do this for years and years. But I've never acknowledged it or brought it forward.

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Christine Powers: So with courage with an open heart with vulnerability. It's like it's simple and it's profound and it's what my heart is being, you know, my heart is calling it forward and it brings me joy. So that's, you know,

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Christine Powers: That's the invitation that I think you and I can give to everybody is really what is what it, what are you being called to do

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Christine Powers: And and this also speaks to you know what lights you up right now. And then the pivot will take care of itself. The business structures, the business structures and all of that, you

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Christine Powers: That's, that's what, that's not how you start. That's how you you bring it forth, but the starting is in this new world in this new paradigm where rules have been stripped away.

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Christine Powers: agreements have been broken. It's a whole new paradigm. So

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Christine Powers: What do you want to be. What do you want to do. How do you want to serve. What brings you joy.

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Terry Wildemann: What a great way to end this episode. Thank you so much for creating

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Terry Wildemann: The end for showing up. So authentically and in your integrity, for sharing a very personal story, allowing me to ask some questions that I know you didn't expect.

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Christine Powers: But I know you and I

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Christine Powers: You're one of your most interesting and deep friends and colleagues and

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Terry Wildemann: Thank you so much for being here to the awaken the possibilities audience. I hope you really took away from this that there really is possibility and opportunity.

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Terry Wildemann: Whenever there is a catastrophe. There always is that seed explodes out if we choose to allow it to I'm Terry will demand your host

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Terry Wildemann: Thank you for being here today and I look forward on behalf of Christine and myself look forward to seeing you next time to your success.