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S1/EP8: Mike Brandon - ATM
A deep dive behind the music and philosophy of the NYC art rock band BODEGA. BODEGA BEN breaks down each track from their new album 'Our Brand Could be Yr Life', exploring the theme of the record: the current state of underground rock music. Together with guests and friends including Bodega Bay members and current collaborators, they dissect the story behind the music.
In this very special episode Ben chats with Mystery Lights frontman Mike Brandon about the answer to the BODEGA Q: ‘What’s the deal with all these ATMs?’ As well as the band’s ‘ATM theory’, the pair discuss normalized sociopathy, mental health, PVT Chat, Carl Jung’s theory of shadow, proto-punk, Wick and Daptone records, Kant, playing with Fat White Family on late night TV, meeting Danny Fields, and the thorny relationship between genre, novelty, and artistic quality.
As well as dissecting the psychology behind the track ‘ATM’, Ben learns about the process behind the new Mystery Lights LP ‘Purgatory’ and his favorite song on that new disc, ‘Memories’.
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1. S1/EP1: Adam Sachs - Dedicated to the Dedicated
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2. S1/EP2: Nikki Belfiglio - G.N.D. Deity
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3. S1/EP3: Joe Wakeman - BODEGA Bait
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4. S1/EP4: Dan Ryan - Tarkovski
01:03:51||Season 1, Ep. 4A deep dive behind the music and philosophy of the NYC art rock band BODEGA. BODEGA BEN breaks down each track from their new album 'Our Brand Could be Yr Life', exploring the theme of the record: the current state of underground rock music. Together with guests and friends including Bodega Bay members and current collaborators, they dissect the story behind the music.For the fourth episode, Ben interviews BODEGA lead guitar player Dan Ryan who shares his process behind his solo in the single ‘Tarkovski.’ Dan treats Ben to guitar playing throughout the episode as the pair chat about Dan’s musical roots, his earliest bands, modern jazz, music school, prog rock, the forest of music theory, the guitar solos on 'Broken Equipment', 2000’s emo-core, Stravinsky, Bach, Super City, Prince, The Temptations, St. Vincent, DIY recording, Kevin Shields, live improvisation, and filmmaker Andrei Tarkovsky.
5. S1/EP5: Josh Fu - Major Amberson
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6. S1/EP6: Aiko Masubuchi - Stain Gaze
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7. S1/EP7: Adam Shumski - Webster Hall
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9. S1/EP9: Tom Miller - Set the Controls for the Heart of the Drum
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