{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/fb927ae8-2bde-4284-bb5c-cc2d1b90b406/dfc44666-5b56-41ba-a717-e9a547bf3cca?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"How Do We Deal With ‘Leaving Neverland’?","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/610c01e5748075001797224a/1628557373805-30695cd3e0363977a08c752ae0d0ebcb.jpeg?height=200","description":"Surprise! It’s an early edition of After Work Drinks this week because let’s be honest, there’s nothing we’re going to want to talk about more than the Michael Jackson documentary (and shocking allegations of abuse in Leaving Neverland). Unlike R. Kelly’s ‘Ignition’, it feels futile and impossible to try and ban or remove Michael Jackson’s music so, if we believe Wade and James, how do we move forward? And why, after all we’ve learned from #MeToo, are we still seeing the credibility of victims be viciously undermined? Plus, on a lighter note, we have a few good watches, reads and listens to ingest and Zadie Smith’s tip for productivity. \nThis episode deals with heavy issues including childhood sexual abuse. While we made the conscious decision not to discuss the allegations in any graphic detail, the topic may be distressing for some listeners. If you feel you need help, the below resources are helpful:\nLifeline: 13 11 14\n1800 RESPECT: 1800 737 732\nChildWise: 1300 244 539\n\n\nRecommendations:\n\nCalypso by David Sedaris\nhttps://www.booktopia.com.au/calypso-david-sedaris/prod9781408707821.html\n\nThe White Album by Joan Didion\nhttps://www.booktopia.com.au/the-white-album-joan-didion/prod9780374532079.html\n\nRussian Doll on Netflix\nhttps://www.netflix.com/title/80211627 \n\nExposed: The Case of Keli Lane on ABC\nhttps://iview.abc.net.au/show/exposed-the-case-of-keli-lane \n\nEsther Perel in the New Yorker\nhttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/love-is-not-a-permanent-state-of-enthusiasm-an-interview-with-esther-perel \n\n‘Where Should We Begin?’ by Esther Perel season three on Audible\nhttps://www.audible.com.au/pd/Esther-Perels-Where-Should-We-Begin-The-Arc-of-Love-Audiobook/B07H7P2DPR \n \nDifficult Women by Roxanne Gay\nhttps://www.hachette.com.au/roxane-gay/difficult-women\n\nThe Cut on Tuesdays \nhttps://www.gimletmedia.com/the-cut-on-tuesdays\n\nThe OA - Netflix \nhttps://www.netflix.com/title/80044950\n\nZadie Smith on The Toure Show\nhttps://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cadence13/toure-show/e/53184632\n\nLeaving Neverland by Dan Reed and HBO\nhttps://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/leaving-neverland/2019/3/leaving-neverland--part-2 \n\n'Reckoning with the Real Michael Jackson' The New York Times' The Daily\nhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/podcasts/the-daily/michael-jackson-abuse-leaving-neverland.html\n\nThe Michael Jackson accusers: ‘The abuse didn’t feel strange, because he was like a god’ by Hadley Freeman in The Guardian\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/mar/04/the-michael-jackson-accusers-the-abuse-didnt-feel-strange-because-he-was-like-a-god\n\n‘Why Oprah’s ‘Neverland’ special was so important’ by Taylor Weatherby for Billboard\nhttps://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8501577/why-oprahs-leaving-neverland-special-was-so-important ","author_name":"Isabelle Truman & Grace O'Neill"}