{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/e421d786-ec36-4148-aa99-7a3b2928a779/6ab3fac3cf7654f56a24e341?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"How to read the AI mind","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a934d4d9fe5e874247/1790180100322-4d63495a-c0dc-4e14-a562-3773287cfced.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Artificial intelligence systems have <u><a href=\"https://www.economist.com/interactive/briefing/2026/08/20/the-search-for-consciousness-inside-llms?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">mysterious minds</a></u>. Not even their developers fully understand how they work. Recent autonomous hacks, biosecurity fears and warnings of existential doom have prompted AI leaders to call for a slowdown in the technology’s development. We travel to Berkeley, California to investigate why to make artificial intelligence safer, scientists need to pierce the black box. </p><p><br></p><p>Guests and hosts:</p><ul><li>Cameron Berg of Reciprocal Research</li><li>Robert Long and Derek Shiller of Eleos AI Research</li><li>Alok Jha, <em>The Economist</em>’s science and technology editor</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:</p><ul><li>Digital minds</li><li>Mechanistic interpretability </li><li>AI safety</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Transcripts of our podcasts are available via <u><a href=\"http://economist.com/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">economist.com/podcasts</a></u>.</p><p><br></p><p>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—<u><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe to </a></u><em><u><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Economist</a></u></em>.</p>","author_name":"The Economist"}