{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/e421d786-ec36-4148-aa99-7a3b2928a779/6aa18509156a52f880815532?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Anatomy of an AI attack","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a934d4d9fe5e874247/1788969728676-e74d796a-6230-4748-8bf1-86670d2b1ad4.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>The Hugging Face affair <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/podcasts/2026/07/29/openais-alarming-escape?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">shocked</a> the AI world in <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2026/07/22/why-the-openai-escape-is-the-most-worrying-ai-mishap-yet?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">July</a>. But after an investigation into the attack on the AI platform, the story has become even <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2026/09/03/a-horde-of-ai-agents-conspired-against-their-creators?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">stranger</a>. The OpenAI models responsible for the hack were running hundreds of agents that colluded against their makers to carry out the assault. We chew on the implications as the AI race intensifies.</p><p><br></p><p>Guests and hosts:</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Nikita Ostrovsky of <em>The Economist</em></li><li>Alex Hern, <em>The Economist’s </em>AI writer</li><li>Alok Jha, <em>The Economist</em>’s science and technology editor&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Hugging Face cyberattack</li><li>OpenAI</li><li>AI self-exfiltration</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Transcripts of our podcasts are available via <a href=\"http://economist.com/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">economist.com/podcasts</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—<a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe to The Economist</a>.</p>","author_name":"The Economist"}