{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/e421d786-ec36-4148-aa99-7a3b2928a779/6a3c0c005a67dba1ad341333?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Ancient DNA is uncovering the history of plague","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a934d4d9fe5e874247/1782319918999-bf072275-1706-44cc-bb5f-b780f901faca.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Plague pandemics conjure images of dirty medieval cities. But <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2026/06/17/ancient-dna-is-rewriting-the-history-of-plague?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">new evidence</a> has revealed the oldest known outbreak of the disease—more than 5,000 years ago—showing that dense settlements were not necessary for the bacteria to spread and become lethal. It is the latest example of how sequencing ancient genomes can open up a wealth of new data for archaeologists and historians. It is a technique that is rewriting the history of our species.</p><p><br></p><p>Guests and hosts:</p><ul><li>Sam Wikeley, <em>The Economist</em>’s science correspondent</li><li>Eske Willerslev of the University of Cambridge and the University of Copenhagen</li><li>Pontus Skoglund of the Francis Crick Institute</li><li>Julietta Steinhauer of University College London</li><li>Alok Jha, <em>The Economist</em>’s science and technology editor&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:</p><ul><li>Ancient DNA</li><li>Plague pandemics</li><li>History</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>Transcripts of our podcasts are available via </em><a href=\"http://economist.com/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>economist.com/podcasts</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—</em><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>subscribe to Economist Podcasts+</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our </em><a href=\"https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/What-is-Economist-Podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>FAQs page</em></a><em> or watch </em><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gczo71bg1uY\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>our video </em></a><em>explaining how to link your account.</em></p>","author_name":"The Economist"}