{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/e421d786-ec36-4148-aa99-7a3b2928a779/6a329c9ca43c1651f44e0906?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"What happens when AI builds itself?","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a934d4d9fe5e874247/1781701445945-c2295c6c-bdb7-4e64-ab76-8e72ae80f749.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>What happens if AI models get so good that they can build their own successors? So model A builds a better model B, which then builds an even better model C, without any humans to slow things down? The answer could be a high-speed rush towards an AI superintelligence that is beyond human understanding, and possibly beyond human control. This process, known as <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2026/06/07/how-artificial-intelligence-got-better-at-building-itself?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">recursive self-improvement</a>, may be much closer than people realise – perhaps just a couple of years away. So is the world ready for an artificial intelligence explosion?</p><p><br></p><p>Guests and hosts:</p><ul><li>Max Tegmark, MIT physics professor, co-founder and leader of the Future of Life Institute</li><li>Alex Hern, <em>The Economist</em>’s AI writer</li><li>Alok Jha, <em>The Economist</em>’s science and technology editor&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:</p><ul><li>Recursive Self Improvement in AI</li><li>US export ban on Anthropic’s Fable 5 model</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>Transcripts of our podcasts are available via </em><a href=\"http://economist.com/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>economist.com/podcasts</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—</em><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>subscribe to Economist Podcasts+</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our </em><a href=\"https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/What-is-Economist-Podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>FAQs page</em></a><em> or watch </em><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gczo71bg1uY\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>our video </em></a><em>explaining how to link your account.</em></p><p><br></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"The Economist"}