{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/e421d786-ec36-4148-aa99-7a3b2928a779/69b1a0cfbba705d7aa29b7e8?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"AI catastrophe could be around the corner","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a934d4d9fe5e874247/1773248755814-48f84453-750b-4130-8063-75293ba4dcce.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>The spat between America’s government and Anthropic has some alarming <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/03/05/ai-danger-gets-real?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">implications</a>. In AI development, it appears speed is being prioritised over safety. Artificial intelligence could not only give bad actors the <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/briefing/2026/03/05/an-ai-disaster-is-getting-ever-closer?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">capabilities</a> to unleash destruction, <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/britain/2026/02/19/britain-is-the-closest-the-world-has-to-an-ai-safety-inspector?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">evidence</a> is building that the models themselves are becoming more capable of deceit. Is a catastrophe imminent?</p><p><br></p><p>Guests and hosts:</p><ul><li>Alex Hern, <em>The Economist</em>’s AI writer</li><li>Adam Beaumont, director of Britain’s AI Security Institute (AISI)</li><li>Jade Leung, Chief Technology Officer at AISI</li><li>Alok Jha, host of “Babbage”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://www.economist.com/insider/the-insider/zanny-minton-beddoes-interviews-anthropics-boss?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Watch</a> Zanny Minton Beddoes, <em>The Economist's</em> editor-in-chief, interview Dario Amodei, Anthropic’s boss, on “The Insider”.</p><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:</p><ul><li>Anthropic vs America’s government</li><li>AI safety</li><li>Cyber security&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>Transcripts of our podcasts are available via </em><a href=\"http://economist.com/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>economist.com/podcasts</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—</em><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>subscribe to Economist Podcasts+</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our </em><a href=\"https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/What-is-Economist-Podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>FAQs page</em></a><em> or watch </em><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gczo71bg1uY\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>our video </em></a><em>explaining how to link your account.</em></p>","author_name":"The Economist"}