{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/e421d786-ec36-4148-aa99-7a3b2928a779/69a872be345da197e0007833?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Why better chips will need more extreme physics","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a934d4d9fe5e874247/1772646953626-006f9474-f781-4b6d-814b-9212defe6872.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Making computer chips is not easy. The <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2025/03/12/the-race-is-on-to-build-the-worlds-most-complex-machine?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">machines</a> that etch patterns onto silicon wafers already use some astonishing engineering. To make the next generation of computer chips, though, engineers will need to get even more <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2025/03/12/want-even-tinier-chips-use-a-particle-accelerator?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=babbage&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">radical</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Guests and hosts:</p><ul><li>Shailesh Chitnis, <em>The Economist</em>’s global business correspondent</li><li>Bruno La Fontaine, a physicist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory</li><li>Nicholas Kelez, CEO and CTO of xLight</li><li>Alok Jha, host of “Babbage”</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:</p><ul><li>Extreme ultraviolet lithography</li><li>Chipmaking</li><li>ASML</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>Transcripts of our podcasts are available via </em><a href=\"http://economist.com/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>economist.com/podcasts</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—</em><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>subscribe to Economist Podcasts+</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p><em>For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our </em><a href=\"https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/What-is-Economist-Podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>FAQs page</em></a><em> or watch </em><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gczo71bg1uY\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>our video </em></a><em>explaining how to link your account.</em></p>","author_name":"The Economist"}