Giles is feeling cut adrift, in the camp but not part of it, fearing the plight of a secular Jew is a rip off.
With that conundrum left unanswered they try to help Barbra Streisand find some fun in her life. Both agree it is more likely a good book by the fire then a private jet to see Katie Perry.
Finally, a big shout out to our listeners in New Zealand – Kia Ora!
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