{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/d556eb54-6160-4c85-95f4-47d9f5216c49/6a633594d19896314260e5c4?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"The Elon game: Musk’s vision of the future","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a934d4d93d6587424a/1784886606093-5a3a2f78-70d5-4788-bcb8-585f4e3d5088.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>After <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/insider/the-insider/an-interview-with-elon-musk?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=theintelligence&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Elon Musk</a>’s first extended interview since SpaceX’s blockbuster IPO, <em>The Economist</em> editor-in-chief reflects on what he told her: that AIs will be in charge in ten years, his dark view of Europe and the inevitably of civil war in Britain. At what age is a <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/07/09/who-is-capable-of-evil?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=theintelligence&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">child responsible</a> for their crimes? And remembering <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/obituary/2026/07/09/mona-khalil-defied-danger-to-protect-her-family?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=theintelligence&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Mona Khalil</a>, Lebanese protector of turtles.&nbsp;</p><p>Watch extended clips from Elon Musk on “Insider” <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/interactive/insider/previews?utm_campaign=a.brand_fy2627_q1_awareness-imp-tr_prospecting_global-global_direct_na&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.pd&amp;utm_source=economist&amp;utm_content=discovery.awareness.anonymous.tr_nativeread_np-tiinsider-apr_na-na_web_na_na_na_na&amp;utm_term=sa.arc-isi\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a></p><p><br></p><p>Guests and host:</p><ul><li>Zanny Minton Beddoes, editor-in-chief of <em>The Economist</em></li><li>Maighna Nanu, editor of foreign newsletters&nbsp;</li><li>Ann Wroe, obituaries editor</li><li>Rosie Blau, co-host of “The Intelligence”</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:&nbsp;</p><ul><li>Elon Musk, AI, killer robots, far right, The Insider</li><li>child criminals, criminal responsibility, gangs</li><li>Mona Khalil, Lebanon, turtles, conservation</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—</em><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>subscribe to The Economist</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"The Economist"}