{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/d556eb54-6160-4c85-95f4-47d9f5216c49/69d77b59ef4d72420640ff04?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"NATO’s dialogues: America’s (next) threat to go","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62e286a934d4d93d6587424a/1775728559565-f7374a16-aa10-45aa-b8fd-844b67657dc3.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>President Donald Trump has long threatened to pull America out of the alliance. We examine why the Iran war has made this time look significantly <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/europe/2026/04/05/european-allies-are-losing-hope-of-keeping-america-in-nato?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=theintelligence&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">more serious</a>. Westerners are fleeing their countries in <a href=\"https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2026/03/22/westerners-are-fleeing-their-countries-in-record-numbers?utm_campaign=a.io&amp;utm_medium=audio.podcast.np&amp;utm_source=theintelligence&amp;utm_content=discovery.content.anonymous.tr_shownotes_na-na_article&amp;utm_term=sa.listeners\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">record numbers</a>—with economic consequences for their origins and destinations. And our series profiling the countries contesting the World Cup starts with Spain.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Guests and host:</p><ul><li>Anton La Guardia, diplomatic editor</li><li>Callum Williams, senior economics writer</li><li>Jon Fasman, senior culture correspondent</li><li>Rosie Blau, co-host of “The Intelligence”</li><li>Jason Palmer, co-host of “The Intelligence”</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:&nbsp;</p><ul><li>NATO, war in Iran, Donald Trump, Mark Rutte</li><li>expats, emigration, economics</li><li>World Cup, Spain</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>Get a world of insights by </em><a href=\"https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>subscribing to Economist Podcasts+</em></a><em>. For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our </em><a href=\"https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/What-is-Economist-Podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>FAQs page</em></a><em> or watch </em><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gczo71bg1uY\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>our video</em></a><em> explaining how to link your account.</em></p>","author_name":"The Economist"}