{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/d0e840b0-f5fe-47d3-b781-71019347fb0b/68dbdaf26d92c33f9c4a2402?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"The Champ, The Prem, and the future of English club rugby","description":"<p>Promotion and relegation, franchising and the rugby pyramid; these are all issues that are so fundamental to the state of English rugby, and things so few people agree on. </p><p><br></p><p>So, to tackle these meaty topics Will and Alex go to Twickenham to meet Simon Gillham, the chair of the new Tier 2 board, and vice-president of French Pro D2 side Brive. </p><p><br></p><p>Can the Champ, which relaunches this weekend, and the Prem finally get on, coexist and thrive together?&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>How could promotion to the top flight work? Will London Irish return like Worcester Warriors have? </p><p><br></p><p>And Will there be an end to \"self-interest\" on all sides? We discuss it all, and rattle through the news from the opening round of the Prem, plus the finale of The Rugby Championship.</p><p><br></p>","author_name":"The Times"}