{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/aa0a2fd3-48ef-4888-91fa-5f91d8f4949d/68c7b6765819338468afcb04?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Jacinda Ardern on leading with kindness.","description":"<p>In this episode Julia Gillard sits down with former New Zealand Prime Minister Dame Jacinda Ardern.</p><p><br></p><p>Jacinda was just 37 years old when she was elected Prime Minister, and a few months later became the second leader in history to give birth while in office, when she welcomed her daughter Neve.</p><p><br></p><p>This year Jacinda published her memoir - A Different Kind of Power - an aptly named book for someone who always pushed back against stereotypes and assumptions about what leadership is, and asked the question, what if kindness came first?&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>In this conversation Julia and Jacinda discuss their experiences as women leaders, Jacinda’s journey to the Prime Ministership and what life looks like for her now post-politics.</p><p><br></p><p>Show notes:</p><p><br></p><p>A Different Kind of Power is published by Penguin and is available at all good bookstores.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"A Podcast of One's Own with Julia Gillard"}