{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/a3c828c3-73ec-4a4b-995c-958894896ec0/69a03d54fa5595772292433d?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"The more you talk about culture, the less people believe you","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/611e766b06c05e99e7f4093f/1772109084822-0e26677a-4ea3-4406-a75f-206fdfdc37ea.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Today's conversation is with <a href=\"https://www.benjaminlaker.co.uk/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Professor Benjamin Laker</a>, someone I've long admired for his cutting edge work on the evolution of culture. <a href=\"https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/the-surprising-impact-of-meeting-free-days/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">His article on Meeting Free Days</a> is probably the piece of research I've shared the most in the last 5 years.</p><p>Laker is Professor of Leadership at Henley Business School, which is part of the University of Reading. As well as writing multiple bestselling books on work like <em>Too Proud to Lead</em> and <em>Job Crafting</em>, he's also published dozens of articles in HBR and MIT Sloan Management Review. He's worked with government helping to develop policy on work and it's evolution.</p><p><br></p><p>I could have chatted to Benjamin about dozens of things but I specifically wanted to dive into <a href=\"https://hbr.org/2025/08/to-change-company-culture-focus-on-systems-not-communication\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">a sensational piece he wrote in Harvard Business Review at the end of last year about changing culture inside of organisations.</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://eatsleepworkrepeat.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=4920&amp;action=edit#:~:text=https%3A//eatsleepworkrepeat.com/the%2Dmore%2Dyou%2Dtalk%2Dabout%2Dculture%2Dthe%2Dless%2Dpeople%2Dbelieve%2Dyou/%E2%86%97\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Full transcript on the website</a></p>","author_name":"brucedaisley.com"}