{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/9a03fe9e-1ff0-4dcc-b3f6-50bd1f016ea4/f9416708-594c-4717-8572-27aab175a508?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Is It Legal?","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6195701f2eacc3a36070252a/619570bccb3c660012e3d157.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>With British politics in disarray, we try to sort out what's a&nbsp;stake - legally, constitutionally and electorally.&nbsp;Can Johnson refuse&nbsp;to do what parliament demands?&nbsp;Can Corbyn get the election he wants?&nbsp;What is Dominic Cummings playing at?&nbsp;And how much is the Fixed-term&nbsp;Parliaments Act to blame for the mess?&nbsp;Plus we explore the likely&nbsp;choices ahead for voters and politicians and we ask the big question&nbsp;lying behind all the drama: is this a question of politics or is it a&nbsp;matter of law?&nbsp;With Helen Thompson and Kenneth Armstrong.</p><p><br></p><p>Talking Points:</p><p><br></p><p>What was Johnson trying to achieve with prorogation?&nbsp;</p><ul><li>Deliberately provoking the opposition? Making it look like Parliament had been defeated to push the EU to work toward another agreement?&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>A lot is going wrong for the government right now and it is struggling get to the general election it wants to fight.</p><ul><li>Helen thinks that the actual goal is an orderly exit from the EU.</li><li>But people don’t believe Johnson when he says he is serious about getting a deal.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Corbyn says that the opposition wants a general election, but only after no deal has been ruled out.</p><ul><li>But if the election takes place in mid-October and Johnson wins a majority, he could overturn any legislation outlawing a no deal.</li><li>Parliament could still revoke Article 50. This might be the best case scenario for Johnson because he could then have a Parliament vs. the people election.</li><li>The assumption seems to be that the government cannot be replaced, but it also can’t do what it wants to do.</li><li>Everyone seems to be trying to tie someone’s hands, but how do you create the politics where you can actually do things?</li></ul><p><br></p><p>At some point there will be a general election: the government is framing it as a choice on Brexit.&nbsp;</p><ul><li>May tried to do that in 2017 and failed.&nbsp;</li><li>But Johnson isn’t May, and he’s running on a more populist, anti-austerity platform.</li><li>What does Labour want to fight this election on? Would they fare better in a Brexit or non-Brexit election?</li><li>The Lib Dems are in a very different position this time.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This is an unusual government: the stories about Dominic Cummings are damaging, but it doesn’t look like he’s going anywhere.</p><ul><li>A referendum is very different than a general election.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-fixed-term-parliaments-act-has-made-the-brexit-mess-even-worse-kr9skngqd\" target=\"_blank\">Catherine Haddon on the Fixed Term Parliaments Act</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.lrb.co.uk/v41/n17/stephen-sedley/a-boundary-where-there-is-none\" target=\"_blank\">Stephen Sedley on Jonathan Sumption and the rule of law for the LRB</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Further Learning:&nbsp;</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/04/boris-johnsons-prorogation-of-parliament-is-lawful-scottish-court-rules\" target=\"_blank\">Scottish Court rules that prorogation is lawful</a></li><li><a href=\"https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2019/09/02/proponents-of-the-new-bill-to-stop-no-deal-face-a-significant-dilemma-over-queens-consent/\" target=\"_blank\">On challenges around a bill to prevent no deal</a></li><li><a href=\"https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/politics-podcast-is-britain-in-the-middle-of-a-constitutional-crisis/\" target=\"_blank\">David and Helen talking about prorogation on the 538 podcast</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>And as ever, recommended reading curated by our friends at the LRB can be found here: </strong><a href=\"https://www.lrb.co.uk/talking\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>lrb.co.uk/talking</strong></a></p>","author_name":"David Runciman and Catherine Carr"}