{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/9a03fe9e-1ff0-4dcc-b3f6-50bd1f016ea4/6f3e09d4-90d4-4aa8-848d-e0b2e334cfc8?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Hong Kong","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6195701f2eacc3a36070252a/619570bccb3c660012e3d1b9.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>What is happening in Hong Kong?&nbsp;We talk to a professor of&nbsp;Chinese history and a Hong Kong journalist about the recent wave of&nbsp;protests there and try to discover what is really at stake on all sides.&nbsp;&nbsp;Who are the protestors?&nbsp;What are their core demands?&nbsp;Can these be&nbsp;met?&nbsp;And what will happen if they aren't?&nbsp;Plus we explore the&nbsp;parallels with other protest movements around the world and look at the&nbsp;possible knock-on effects, from Beijing to Taiwan.&nbsp;With Hans van de Ven&nbsp;and Angus Hui.</p><p><br></p><p>Talking Points:</p><p><br></p><p>The protests in Hong Kong are now in their second month. As many as half a million people have taken to the streets.</p><ul><li>There is also a smaller group of much younger people who occupied the legislative council chambers last week.</li><li>The initial protests were about repealing an extradition law. But the protest now seems to be about the entire system.</li><li>This is the 30th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre.&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>The protesters want to show that Hong Kong is not China.</p><ul><li>Is this a threat to one country, two systems?&nbsp;</li><li>The Umbrella Movement in 2014 was about suffrage and democracy. Is this going beyond that?</li><li>One country, two systems was meant to last 50 years. We are now 22 years in.&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>What would the protesters count as success?</p><ul><li>Independence is an unrealistic goal.&nbsp;</li><li>The protesters want three things: 1) The withdrawal of the extradition bill 2)&nbsp;An independent investigation committee into police violence against the protesters and 3) protection from prosecution for the protesters.</li><li>A real win would be a genuinely elected chief executive and a genuinely elected legislative council. This would involve negotiations with Beijing.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Even if these protests fade, the issues remain and will only get more serious.</p><ul><li>What is happening in Hong Kong is the building up of a tradition of protests that will feed on each other.</li><li>There is a broader breakdown in trust between mainland China and the people living in Hong Kong, including the fear that the social credit system may be introduced in Hong Kong.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Mentioned in this Episode:</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3017327/it-wasnt-violence-violences-sake-only-unmasked-protester\" target=\"_blank\">English language news sources on the situation in Hong Kong</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Further Learning:</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/08/world/asia/carrie-lam-hong-kong.html?rref=collection%2Ftimestopic%2FExtradition\" target=\"_blank\">Background from the NYTimes on the protests</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/30/-sp-hong-kong-umbrella-revolution-pro-democracy-protests\" target=\"_blank\">More on the umbrella revolution</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/world/asia/hong-kong-extradition-protests-christians.html?rref=collection/timestopic/Extradition\" target=\"_blank\">More on Christianity and the Hong Kong protests</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>And as ever, recommended reading curated by our friends at the LRB can be found here: </strong><a href=\"http://lrb.co.uk/talking\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>lrb.co.uk/talking</strong></a></p>","author_name":"David Runciman and Catherine Carr"}