{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/9a03fe9e-1ff0-4dcc-b3f6-50bd1f016ea4/6531b1c6-d9a9-4fc7-89e6-3fdd640cea47?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"David Miliband on the Crisis","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6195701f2eacc3a36070252a/619570bccb3c660012e3cfb7.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>We talk with David Miliband, head of the International Rescue Committee, about the impact of the pandemic on the world's poorest countries.&nbsp;What happens in places where social distancing is not possible?&nbsp;Plus we discuss the long-term implications of the crisis for the future global co-operation and global conflict.&nbsp;Is this the moment for social democracy?&nbsp;More details of the work of the IRC can be found here:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.rescue-uk.org/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.rescue-uk.org/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Talking Points:&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>By fluke or demography, the virus has not hit places such as the Middle East or sub-Saharan Africa yet in full force.</p><ul><li>In places with rampant extreme poverty, the story will be different. It’s not a tradeoff between health and economic well-being in the same way.&nbsp;</li><li>The crisis demonstrates the holes in the global safety net.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>There are parts of the world where social distancing is impossible.</p><ul><li>Population density heaps danger on insecurity.</li><li>You’re only as strong as the weakest link in the chain—look at Singapore. They had the disease under control but it came back among migrant labour communities.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Right now, there is more myopia than global thinking.</p><ul><li>Conversations about easing lockdowns are centered on what happens within the state, or maybe groups of states.</li><li>There is a vacuum of global leadership.</li><li>Is it possible to have institutions that can manage this kind of interconnectivity?&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>The politics of the WHO are part of its problem.</p><ul><li>How much executive power do you want to vest in international institutions?</li><li>For legitimacy, they depend on the support of nation states, but for efficacy, they depend on their ability to stand independent of nation states.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Right now America is a flagship for dysfunction.</p><ul><li>The frailties that have been exposed have big implications.</li><li>In the UK, the so-called populist attack on elite or establishment institutions seems to have been reversed in this crisis. Not in the US. What does this say about social trust?</li></ul><p><br></p><p>New inequalities in the service economy have been brought to the surface.</p><ul><li>Holes in the global safety net have also been exposed.</li><li>The scale of the economic response means that issues of economic security will probably remain present.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Mentioned in this Episode:&nbsp;</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.newstatesman.com/2020/04/david-miliband-four-contests-will-shape-post-covid-19-world\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">David M. in <em>The New Statesman</em>&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href=\"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-britons-still-support-lockdown-despite-being-sadder-and-more-anxious-poll-11977655\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Polling on coronavirus and decreased trust in the media</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Further Learning:&nbsp;</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.rescue-uk.org/topic/coronavirus-response\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The IRC report on corona in vulnerable states</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.ft.com/content/d2609e26-8875-11ea-a01c-a28a3e3fbd33\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">More on privacy and coronavirus tracing apps</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/coronavirus-pandemic-inequality-among-workers/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Coronavirus in an age of inequality</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>And as ever, recommended reading curated by our friends at the LRB can be found here: </strong><a href=\"http://lrb.co.uk/talking\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>lrb.co.uk/talking</strong></a></p>","author_name":"David Runciman and Catherine Carr"}