{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/9a03fe9e-1ff0-4dcc-b3f6-50bd1f016ea4/5bc7ba52-ca65-4559-9735-9ca2b5a1065c?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Outlasting Trump","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6195701f2eacc3a36070252a/619570bccb3c660012e3d1c7.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>We talk with Gary Gerstle about the big issues roiling US&nbsp;politics with likely aftereffects that will long outlast Trump's&nbsp;presidency.&nbsp;First up: the fight over the census.&nbsp;What's a stake in the&nbsp;citizenship question?&nbsp;How has American politics been shaped by&nbsp;people-counting in the past?&nbsp;And what is the Supreme Court likely to&nbsp;decide?&nbsp;Plus we look at constitutional reform, the environment and&nbsp;impeachment.&nbsp;These are the battles that could have consequences for&nbsp;decades to come.&nbsp;With Helen Thompson.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Talking Points:</strong></p><p><br></p><p>The Trump administration wants to put the “citizenship question” on the U.S. census.</p><ul><li>Lines are being drawn between personhood and citizenship.</li><li>If immigrants avoid the census, there could be consequences for Democrats.</li><li>The Republicans know that demographics are against them.</li><li>Trump probably wouldn’t have won the Republican primary without the backlash against immigration.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>The United States was the first country to put a census in its constitution.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><ul><li>The census is not connected to citizenship: it’s connected to personhood.&nbsp;</li><li>Counting for the purposes of elections becomes complicated when you have a significant number of people in the country who are not citizens.</li><li>The census gives you the numbers, but what happens is up to the states. This is why state-level offices are so important.&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>If Trump wins a second term, he will likely appoint two justices to the Supreme Court.</p><ul><li>He has promised that he will only appoint people approved by the Federalist Society, which promotes an originalist interpretation of the Constitution.</li><li>There can still be meaningful differences when people get on the court: Gorsuch, for example, has been more willing to side with liberal justices than Kavanaugh.</li><li>But Kavanaugh and Gorsuch both are unlikely to uphold environmental regulations.&nbsp;</li><li>If a Democrat wins, he or she will have to contend with a court that opposes the regulatory state.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>What about the impeachment question?</p><ul><li>Is there a principle at stake here? If not now, when?</li><li>The Mueller report is damning—it emphasizes that the fact that they are not indicting the president does not mean they are exonerating him.</li><li>Mueller’s July testimony will be significant: if impeachment is going to happen, the next few months are crucial.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Mentioned in this Episode:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/census-citizenship-question-hofeller.html\" target=\"_blank\">The GOP gerrymandering architect and what his daughter found when she died.</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Further Learning:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/inside-a-texas-building-where-the-government-is-holding-immigrant-children\" target=\"_blank\">What are the conditions at the U.S. border?</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.talkingpoliticspodcast.com/blog/2019/162-president-bernie\" target=\"_blank\">President Bernie?</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.talkingpoliticspodcast.com/blog/2019/155-trump-after-mueller\" target=\"_blank\">Trump after Mueller</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.talkingpoliticspodcast.com/blog/2018/123-america-first\" target=\"_blank\">America First?</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>And as ever, recommended reading curated by our friends at the LRB can be found here: </strong><a href=\"http://lrb.co.uk/talking\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>lrb.co.uk/talking</strong></a></p>","author_name":"David Runciman and Catherine Carr"}