{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/9a03fe9e-1ff0-4dcc-b3f6-50bd1f016ea4/05108a83-461e-413e-98ae-8f0f83392205?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Not Over Yet","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6195701f2eacc3a36070252a/619570bccb3c660012e3d103.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>After two significant votes in the House of Commons pointing in two different directions - one towards a Brexit agreement and the other towards a general election - we discuss where we might be heading.&nbsp;Does Johnson have enough to persuade the wavering MPs he needs to get his Brexit deal over the line?&nbsp;Do his opponents have enough to stop him?&nbsp;Can European leaders still force the issue?&nbsp;And if there is an election, does it all change again?&nbsp;Plus we ask: what's actually in the WAB?&nbsp;With Helen Thompson, Catherine Barnard and Chris Brooke.</p><p><br></p><p>Talking Points:</p><p><br></p><p>Last night was the first time since the Brady amendment that Parliament voted positively on something.</p><ul><li>The stop Brexit MP’s seem to be implementing tactics without a strategy.</li><li>Are there any conditions under which the 14 Labour MPs would vote for Johnson’s deal for real?</li><li>The Labour whipping operation is still working. So it seems unlikely that a WA will go through this House of Commons.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Johnson’s deal is mostly Theresa May’s deal, with the exception of some really complicated legal points around Northern Island.</p><ul><li>Until people are given an either/or choice, they’ll probably keep dancing around.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Where is the EU on all of this?&nbsp;</p><ul><li>They are unlikely to renegotiate another deal.</li><li>Macron could still force a choice between no deal and revoke, but he doesn’t want to be blamed for the UK crashing out.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>At some point, an election is going to become inevitable.</p><ul><li>Can anything pass without an election?</li><li>Things have changed for Johnson: now he’d be campaigning with a deal.</li><li>Christmas could put a wrench in things: would a winter election be bad for Labour?</li></ul><p><br></p><p>How effective was a Benn act?</p><ul><li>Perhaps more so than people originally thought.&nbsp;</li><li>A shorter extension could reveal the weaknesses in the Benn act. But Macron probably won’t force the issue.&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Mentioned in this Episode:</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K2d8Y5L3Mc\" target=\"_blank\">Keir Starmer on trap-doors</a></li><li><a href=\"https://brexittime.com\" target=\"_blank\">Kenneth’s blog post on the Withdrawal Bill&nbsp;</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Further Learning:</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/the-news-explained/boris-johnsons-brexit-deal-explained/\" target=\"_blank\">Catherine explains the Brexit deal in less than five minutes</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/17/eu-leaders-give-brexit-deal-cautious-approval-but-warn-obstacles-ahead\" target=\"_blank\">Where do the EU leaders stand?&nbsp;</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>And as ever, recommended reading curated by our friends at the LRB can be found here: </strong><a href=\"http://lrb.co.uk/talking\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>lrb.co.uk/talking</strong></a></p>","author_name":"David Runciman and Catherine Carr"}