{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/9493a099-e257-56f0-96a2-50d7c60874aa/2a536d84-b25a-4857-89a7-4e9964afe817?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Carla Lalli Music","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61b757091695627f9fe95027/61b757122dff90001365cc17.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>Evan Ross Katz chats food world superstar and James Beard-winning cookbook author Carla Lalli Music to discuss her time as the first general manager of the first Shake Shack location, developing her perspective around what is \"good\" food, her abrupt August exit from Bon Appétit, white privilege, parenting in a pandemic, why you shouldn't buy knives online and so much more. Plus, Evan chats with Veronica Leventhal, the step-daughter of one of the&nbsp;<em>Real Housewives</em>&nbsp;franchises's most controversial figures about having Kelly Dodd as a stepmother.</p><p><br></p><p>Show links:</p><p><br></p><p>Get bonus content by joining us on Patreon&nbsp;<a href=\"http://patreon.com/shutupevan\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">http://patreon.com/shutupevan</a></p><p><br></p><p>Evan Ross Katz on Instagram&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/evanrosskatz/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.instagram.com/evanrosskatz/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Matt aka Stormageddon on Twitter&nbsp;<a href=\"https://twitter.com/dj_stormageddon\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://twitter.com/dj_stormageddon</a></p><p><br></p><p>Ryan Killian Krause on Twitter&nbsp;<a href=\"https://twitter.com/RyanKKrause\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://twitter.com/RyanKKrause</a></p>","author_name":"Evan Ross Katz"}