{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/92a01f39-5872-57db-9b46-339f517199e5/6abe6513205819f3d737c5f5?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"The AI That Stunned Lawyers – Greg Baker","description":"<p>Picture a computer scientist having a late-night chat with AI about his career. Now picture that conversation leading him to take on his own employer in a landmark case at Australia&#39;s Fair Work Commission, with AI as his only legal advisor.</p><p><br></p><p>That&#39;s exactly what happened recently to our guest this week, Greg Baker. And he won.</p><p><br></p><p>Greg is a computer scientist, university lecturer, consultant and musician. He has written eight books, including translations of the Heidi series and a book of tech-geek poetry. He has also written three film scores, wrote clauses for the Australia-USA Free Trade Agreement and has played on stage at the Sydney Opera House with The Piano Guys.</p><p><br></p><p>Greg represented himself against Macquarie University&#39;s legal team in a case about whether he was eligible to be made permanent staff rather than remain a casual. His victory made headlines across Australia. As Greg tells us, some lawyers have since reached out to him in &quot;sheer, abject terror.&quot;</p><p><br></p><p>In this fascinating conversation we cover:</p><p><br></p><ul><li>The specific approach Greg used to get the best out of ChatGPT for his case</li><li>How AI built him winning arguments where no legal precedent existed, in what is believed to be a world-first example of AI doing this </li><li>Why long back-and-forth chats with AI deliver less than optimal results</li><li>The one aspect of white collar jobs that Greg believes AI can never take on, and </li><li>Why he thinks children who are under 5 years old today may grow up as &quot;psychological aliens&quot; to us given their likely early exposure to AI. </li></ul><p><br></p><p>Greg also explains why he expects AI to exceed human intelligence in white collar work within the next five years, and what that could mean for the rest of us. </p><p><br></p><p>Whether you&#39;re curious about your rights at work, or about what AI could do for you when the stakes are high, don’t miss this conversation with the thoughtful and witty Greg Baker.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Useful Links</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Greg&#39;s<a href=\"https://solresol.substack.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> </a><u><a href=\"https://solresol.substack.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Substack</a></u></p><p>Link for <u><a href=\"https://mailchi.mp/3aa69d0e27e2/an-infinite-supply-of-someone-book-updates\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">updates on Greg’s forthcoming book</a></u> ‘<em>An Infinite Supply of Someone</em>’ detailing how he won his legal case</p><p><u><a href=\"https://www.darioamodei.com/essay/machines-of-loving-grace\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Machines of Loving Grace</a></u>, the essay by Dario Amodei that Greg references</p><p>Subscribe to <em>Don&#39;t Stop Us Now – AI Edition</em> wherever you get your podcasts</p><p>Share this episode with a friend or colleague curious about what AI could mean for their work</p>","author_name":"Claire Hatton & Greta Thomas"}